From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: The TANGERINE AMBIENCE CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Molasar's Bent Cold Finger' >Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:57:46 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: Re: Tangerine Ambience II >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >All in all, it's a good disk, but for the most part doesn't offer >anything new. It'll just make you want to hear the originals. [. . .] I wish TANGENTS resulted in such a want. ;) >[. . .] It would have been nice if the interpretations had been a bit >more daring. [. . .] What, Volume 1's 'Bent Cold Sidewalk' wasn't daring enough? (This is this CD's one outstanding track, by the way, for those who haven't heard it.) Seriously, though, I'd rather have folks play it a tad safe if the alternative is anything like The Orb's 'remix' of 'Towards the Evening Star'! :( ;) :) -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unidentified flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts the Air Force has silenced it personnel.' --Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter, the 1st director of the CIA, quoted in THE NEW YORK TIMES, February 28, 1960. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 3:00 pm Subject: Wuivend Reit.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: STEPHEN_OTT@p... ( STEPHEN M OTT) I came across a couple copies of Schmoelling's 'Wuivend Reit' that I'm willing to trade...anyone interested, please e-mail me off-list. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 7:29 pm Subject: Redshift, Pickford ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steve_Whiteley@N... (Steve Whiteley) Hey Dreamers, I finally recieved Redshift and Pickford's Xenomorph, Maelstrom. Thanks to those who posted the WaveSpell sale and promoted Eurock. Although I would not have guessed it but, Redshift has got most of my time. It visits the same places as Rubycon, Richocet, Encore and Sorcerer. While most of us have been to those worlds before, I would say that there are landscapes left to explore, such as boundaries between Rubycon and Richocet which Ether does so well. Where Tangerine Dream may have been the pioneer explorers, others will mount new expeditions or do some homesteading and have a different perspective on the place. Maybe we will have a Waldens Pond soon. Some good reviews have already been posted on the individual songs, search them out. I will buy the first one soon. Could someone mail me a Shreeve hit list? The two Pickford releases are theme related, spoken word statements set the mood for many pieces. Such as, ' (phone) ring... ring... ring... (surf dude voice) Hey dude, you have reached planet earth, we are out evolving at the moment but leave your name and message and we will get back' < some great EM music sequences > Anilalator voice annouces the end < some great bass heavy sequences > 'ring.. ring... ring... ...' nobodys home. IMO Andy Pickford has been influenced by a little TD, more Jarre and probably alot of Andy. As, some of you can tell I have only listen to both once, but wanted to offer other lurkers a quick look. As a new musical explorer on the list, I would like to thank you old timers in advance for more of your musical advice. This list has proven much more reliable than picking by album cover, title names, record label and former members. Later, Steve nw (now waiting) for logostypes npimh (now playing in my head) Redshift Ether 'Powerful' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 7:46 pm Subject: Re: Put This List's Archives on the Web! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: David Datta Look at: http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c... Old archives are at mirrors.aol.com via FTP, probably under /pub/music/lists/tadream The FAQ sent with new-user incorporates infos from all of the list archives before the reference.com archive. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 7:56 pm Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >My >local music store carried the soundtrack on cassette (contrary to what >many people say, this was released on cassette) but when I went to >purchase it it was gone! (snip) >I picked up that cassette about 100 times over the next month, >wanting it despeartely but not having the money to buy it. Finally, my >father said he'd get it for me, so we went to the store and... yep, you >guessed it... it was GONE! Now, many many people have insisted that The >Keep was NEVER released. But I held that little cassette in my hot little >hands several times over a month. Well, they all had it in their hands (LP or cassette) and NOBODY had enough money to buy the damn thing???? They all went home to get money and when they got back it was gone. In the above text he says he picked it up 100 times over the next month...so it was available at least for a month!! Didn't anybody just thought: heck, i will buy this cassette? I just refuse to believe that! I mean, how much does a cassette or LP cost? As long as I see these stories and no-one has proof, I don't believe it was released, sorry. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 7:56 pm Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > I just found the following two posts in the guestbook at the TDI > website. Poor bastard, this Sutekh: he not only held the 1984 cassette > release of THE KEEP in his hand once but *several times*, only to spend > the rest of his life having to hear most of the rest of TD fandom say > that he's wrong. (When you hold something in your hand *several* times, > it is pretty fucking A well hard to convince yourself that you did > otherwise, fer crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Funny thing, I have discovered a source today for the original The Keep music, this is not joke (but read on to determine the validity). I talked to a guy today that says The Keep LP exists and that a few years ago he made a CD-R of it. After further questioning, like what did this LP look like, he finally admitted to me that someone gave him a tape of it and he did not see the actual LP. Now I wonder if this is the same music we find on the two bootleg versions? Should I go ahead and get it to end speculation? :-) Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Vic's Friend's Tape of THE KEEP LP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:56:07 -0400 >Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Vic Rek > >Funny thing, I have discovered a source today for the original The Keep >music, this is not joke (but read on to determine the validity). > >I talked to a guy today that says The Keep LP exists and that a few >years ago he made a CD-R of it. After further questioning, like what did >this LP look like, he finally admitted to me that someone gave him a >tape of it and he did not see the actual LP. Now I wonder if this is >the same music we find on the two bootleg versions? [. . .] Well, there's one way to find out: if there is stuff on it that does not appear on the Blue Moon boot, the CD-R boot, and the TDI ltd. ed. -- *and* is not obviously just another RUBYCON REVISITED hoax -- we might have the genuine article. >[. . .] Should I go ahead and get it to end speculation? :-) I *hope* that that's a rhetorical question; no, Vic, give me the guy's phone number/postal address/e-mail address and *I'll* do the deed *for* you. ;) Hee hee hee, ho ho, aaaaah-hahahahaha! (Gee wilikers, but ain't it interesting that this so-called non-existent LP has been sighted more than any other rare album you can name? Makes you think there might be something to it, eh? Duh!) 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(tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 12:05 pm Subject: Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 05:48 PM 4/14/98 +0200, you wrote: >>Really-From: 'Steven Feldman, Splittin' Hairs Agin' > > > >> Recorded live at the Jodrell Bank Planetarium 7.12.96 >> >> So, December 1996 is listed on the sampler, while July 12, 1996 is >>listed on Redshift's second album (ETHER). Has this been discussed >>before? Hey Steven! That darned old Dewey Decimal system must REALLY be perplexing, huh? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: On Likelihood & Belief: The 1984 KEEP Album & UFOs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:56:05 +0200 >Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Marcel Engels > >Well, they all had it in their hands (LP or cassette) and NOBODY had >enough money to buy the damn thing???? [. . .] There is a difference between *nobody* and *nobody on this list*-- but some myopic types and/or egomaniacs don't understand this. I was a dishwasher when I saw the album. I truly did not have the money at the time. It was a Wednesday and I got paid on Friday. When I cashed my check and went back for the record, it was gone. Is this so hard to believe, fer cripes sake?!? At least one other subscriber to this list has an almost identical story to tell. I know it's hard for rich people with computers and a cushy life to empathize with those less fortunate, but hey, what happened happened. Your not believing it will not change the facts. >They all went home to get money and when they got back it was gone. >In the above text he says he picked it up 100 times over the next >month...so it was available at least for a month!! Didn't anybody just >thought: heck, i will buy this cassette? Apparently not. >I just refuse to believe that! I mean, how much does a cassette or LP >cost? As long as I see these stories and no-one has proof, I don't >believe it was released, sorry. Considering the ever-mounting bulk of anecdotal evidence related to this subject, I think you're being a tad dense; I once gave a class presentation about the time I saw UFOs in New Mexico. Predictably, there were hecklers in the classroom who said that they didn't believe in UFOs. That's all fine and dandy, but it didn't address the premise of what I'd said. I'd said that *whatever it was that I saw* shined a coherent beam of light down from about the height of one mile down into a mountain about two miles away -- that said light did not spread out on its way down to the ground -- and that my only possible conclusion was that the production of such a light is physically impossible given our current state of technological development. In this context, the statement, 'I don't believe in UFOs' is sort of inane. The notion or premise that an object performed a feat unperformable by any known device demands that conventional explanations simply do not apply. By the same token, the fact that THE KEEP is the *only* apocryphal TD album that people have continually claimed to have seen should tell you something. -- Steven Feldman + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Put Pre-This-Week's Archives on the Web ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:46:27 -0500 >Subject: Re: Put This List's Archives on the Web! >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: David Datta > >Look at: > >http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c... Wow! What's there is great, but it's only 4/9/1998 to 4/16/1998. >Old archives are at mirrors.aol.com via FTP, probably under >/pub/music/lists/tadream These are not searchable, though, I assume. If someone could come up with the webspace, would you object to their linking the www.reference.com search engine to all the back- archives -- or is that against www.reference.com's rules? (How hard is it to come up with a search feature for mailing list archives, anyways, I wonder.) -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12985 Re: Put Pre-This-Week's Archives on the Web Sean Montgomery Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 8:53 pm Subject: keep cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Hi Gang, I recently acquired a spare copy of THE KEEP official copy, with the slipcase on cd. This is the copy which was only sold overseas at the concerts ( and at a few specialty shops). I paid more than your average cd cost for it and am taking bids on it. Keep in mind while this has been stated as it will be domestically released, it still HAS NOT. If it does ever see the light of day, I will be happy , but in the meantime.......please feel free to make an offer. Highest takes the prize. By the if someone can show me photographic proof of the so called KEEP lp I will pay $100.00. So there Mr. Feldman! PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS LIST!!!!! Chris Bruno@c... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12998 Re: keep cd Mike Livsey Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 12999 Re: keep cd OIK Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 13000 Re: keep cd Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13020 Re: keep cd Dave Lane Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13022 Re: keep cd Sean Montgomery Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13023 Re: keep cd Dan J. Schulte Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 13045 Re: keep cd Dave Lane Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13051 Re: keep cd Antonio Nunes Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 9:02 pm Subject: The Keep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Glenn Reinicke Since we're all having so much fun with The Keep soundtrack, does anyone have a copy of the 1997 Limited Edition CD so I can get a listen? If you do, please email me off-list. Thanks! Glenn Reinicke glennr@f... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 14617 The Keep Jeff Stevenson Sun 6/14/1998 3 KB 16411 The Keep Shadow Fri 5/14/1999 1 KB 16435 Re: The Keep Steven Le Vine Sat 5/15/1999 2 KB 16444 Re: The Keep Stephen Kyle Sat 5/15/1999 3 KB 16450 Re: The Keep Shadow Sat 5/15/1999 1 KB 16451 Re: The Keep Steven Le Vine Sat 5/15/1999 1 KB 16544 The Keep Anil Sahal Wed 5/19/1999 1 KB 16969 The Keep Anil Sahal Thu 6/24/1999 2 KB 16975 Re: The Keep Plumer, Scott Thu 6/24/1999 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 9:03 pm Subject: Re: Put Pre-This-Week's Archives on the Web ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c... > > Wow! What's there is great, but it's only 4/9/1998 to 4/16/1998. Ah, but you can adjust the range of your search farther down the page! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Is Quoting Text via the reference.com tadream archives possible? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:03:07 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: Re: Put Pre-This-Week's Archives on the Web >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >> >http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c... >> >> Wow! What's there is great, but it's only 4/9/1998 to 4/16/1998. > >Ah, but you can adjust the range of your search farther down the page! Whoops. You're right. It allows for searching back to Dec. 1997. Hey, four months is pretty good. I can't figure out how to quote text in a post, though. Is it possible on reference.com's system??? If there is a way, I'll post a message to the TDI guestbook, telling everyone there that they can read and post to the tadream mailing list right from the web (with or without a hotmail account). Sound good? -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 10:59 pm Subject: RE: RE: Put an end to speculations ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle) Hi, it's me again... I see, even after posting the whole article from 'Dream Collector' #21, questions were left. Here's the answer: > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > ... did you notice that 'The Keep' isn't one of the 25 listed?... Of course: The official release of 'The Keep' will be on Virgin, TDI has only issued the pre-release series of 150 copies which have been sold during the British tour in autumn. Regarding 'The Keep' on Virgin, no details are known so far. 'Dream Collector' readers could find this note in issze #20 of January, 21st: ---> 'When 'Dream Collector' inquired for 'The Keep', Virgin could not yet tell an official date of release.' <--- And there is *nothing* new to add. 'The Keep' still is not on Virgin's release schedule for the next weeks / months. > > - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982) > > - Twilight folder (rare unreleased material 1983-1997) > > These items particularly intrigue me. Does this mean totally unreleased > (as in Dream Roots Disk 5) or just *rare* (like Ultima Thule)? 'Unreleased' means 'unreleased'. Some of these tracks may circulate on tapes already, but they have not yet been released officially so far. 'Rare' means 'rare', so this could also include material which is unavailable today, like 'Ultima Thule'. But this is speculation so far, track listings do not exist yet. > Really-From: Tdune > > Well, some people on this list (including me) do not subscribe to 'Dream > Collector' so it is news to us!! It has not been new to the 'Dream Collector' subscribers for two months... By the way, subscribing is quite simple. Drop me a line privately ;-) Peter Stoeferle 'Dream Collector' editor ------------------------------------------- 'Dream Collector' information/subscription: Peter Stoeferle Fax: +49 / 821 / 155 118 eMail: peter.stoeferle@t... ------------------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12989 Re: Put an end to speculations Sean Montgomery Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Steve's Lack of Understanding re British Dates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Embarrassed as Hell >Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:05:37 >Subject: Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Michael Fox > >At 05:48 PM 4/14/98 +0200, you wrote: > >>>Really-From: 'Steven Feldman, Splittin' Hairs Agin' >> >> >>> Recorded live at the Jodrell Bank Planetarium 7.12.96 >>> >>> So, December 1996 is listed on the sampler, while July 12, 1996 is >>>listed on Redshift's second album (ETHER). Has this been discussed >>>before? > >Hey Steven! That darned old Dewey Decimal system must REALLY be >perplexing, huh? Eeep! X-0 You got me by the short and curlies, this time, Michael. Now let go! ;) -- Steven Feldman --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't give a damn on what the journalists are saying. If some dog pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!' -- Klaus Kinski From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 10:55 pm Subject: RE: RE: Put an end to speculations ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > ... did you notice that 'The Keep' isn't one of the 25 listed?... > > Of course: The official release of 'The Keep' will be on Virgin.. D'oh! Okay, that's just a mistake on my part. I went back and read the article on the TD webpage about The Keep. Sure enough, it says right there that it's to be a Virgin release. Still, it also says copies would be made available through the website, and I guess legal wrangling has made that impossible for the time being. > > > - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982) > > > - Twilight folder (rare unreleased material 1983-1997) > > > 'Unreleased' means 'unreleased'. Some of these tracks may circulate on tapes > already, but they have not yet been released officially so far. 'Rare' means > 'rare' I was just thinking out loud when I asked about this. I wasn't sure if there was to be a comma or an ampersand between the words rare and unreleased! :-) Thanks again, Peter! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 10:01 pm Subject: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mark Fonda Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-) Mark Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12992 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ Mike Livsey Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13039 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ Gabe Yedid Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13005 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ David Datta Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13008 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ Vincent Goudreault Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 2:45 am Subject: Re: Vic's Friend's Tape of THE KEEP LP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Steven Feldman >>Funny thing, I have discovered a source today for the original The Keep >>music, this is not joke (but read on to determine the validity). > Well, there's one way to find out: if there is stuff on it that >does not appear on the Blue Moon boot, the CD-R boot, and the TDI ltd. >ed. -- *and* is not obviously just another RUBYCON REVISITED hoax -- >we might have the genuine article. Well guys, just another lame rumour. I did not mean this to be a joke because Steve's post was just in sync with my information. The guy told me that the CD has 15 tracks and is about 65-66 minutes long. I said 'this can't be a tape of the LP - there's too much music' - answer 'maybe some bonus stuff was added'. So basically this is the source for the Blue Moon bootleg, based upon the price (which I will keep confindential). Another Keep mystery disspelled - sorry Steven - if I just had that 5 bucks way back when... ;-) Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 10:00 am Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:01:00 -0300, you wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: Mark Fonda > > >Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-) > >Mark > > Really cool music....ruined... -- Mike Livsey 'A woman is a lot like a beer; they smell good, they look good, and you would step over your own mother just to get one. But you can't stop at just one; you wanna drink another woman.' --Homer J. Simpson Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13039 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ Gabe Yedid Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:16 am Subject: Travel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: patricdonaghy@w... (Patric Donaghy) I will be in London April 23-27-98...Edinburgh April 28-29-98...Salisbury April 30-98...and Paris May1-5. If anyone would like me to bring American cds etc, please email me off list to discuss. Patric Donaghy Printing Impressions From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:28 am Subject: Poland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'jowers' Could someone please translate the intro to the Poland CD? Is it German or Polish? Thanks, Kevin Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13001 Re: Poland MPOORT Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13009 Re: Poland Andrew J. Rozsa Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13007 Re: Poland Plumer, Scott Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13131 Poland jowers Sat 4/18/1998 2 KB 13132 Poland jowers Sat 4/18/1998 2 KB 16796 Poland Derk Fri 6/11/1999 1 KB 16797 Re: Poland yannick.edom@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx Fri 6/11/1999 2 KB 16798 Poland Anil Sahal Fri 6/11/1999 2 KB 16800 Re: Poland Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Fri 6/11/1999 1 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:42 am Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > >My > >local music store carried the soundtrack on cassette (contrary to what > >many people say, this was released on cassette) but when I went to > >purchase it it was gone! > > (snip) > > >I picked up that cassette about 100 times over the next month, > >wanting it despeartely but not having the money to buy it. Finally, my > >father said he'd get it for me, so we went to the store and... yep, you > >guessed it... it was GONE! Now, many many people have insisted that The > >Keep was NEVER released. But I held that little cassette in my hot little > >hands several times over a month. > > Well, they all had it in their hands (LP or cassette) and NOBODY had enough > money to buy the damn thing???? > They all went home to get money and when they got back it was gone. > In the above text he says he picked it up 100 times over the next month...so > it was available at least for a month!! Didn't anybody just thought: heck, i > will buy this cassette? > I just refuse to believe that! I mean, how much does a cassette or LP cost? > As long as I see these stories and no-one has proof, I don't believe it was > released, sorry. Hell yeah! Finally it is said with precision and truth! There is no bloody Keep cassette! There is no bloody LP! I know just about every hardcore soundtrack collector worth knowing and not ONE of them owns this release, in any form!! Maybe they all got to the store and realized they had quid instead of dollars so they couldn't buy the damn thing. They went to the bank to exchange quid for $ or dollars for quid and when they got back...oh bloody too late!! Marcel's right!! Don't any of you morons seeing this release carry more than $15 bucks around with you!! Sheesh!! Dano ;-) np: Wetton (Chasing the Deer) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 6:55 pm Subject: Re: Put This List's Archives on the Web! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: OIK Just a little correction (very minor, but it may make your day) but you do NOT have 3 meg of space at GeoCities...you have 6 meg...they just raised the base amount for all of the geocitizens...just thought I'd put a smile on your face. :-> -- OIK visit my home page at http://oik.home.ml.org sign up for my Philosophy Mailing List at http://oik.home.ml.org/mail_list.html Visit http://www.suite101.com/topics/page.cfm/748 and read my article on Enigma last but not least, Have a Nice Day :o) tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > > >Really-From: Steven Feldman > [...] > > [The tadream list archives, www access] > > > Even better, there is a kick-ass search engine on the list I just > >mentioned: it can search the entirety of the list's archives by keyword! > >Now *that* is something we all could benefit from. > > Yummi ! > > Great idea, Steven. Just go for it ! :-D > > Iīve already talked with Vic Rek off-list about setting up such a www archive > just a few days ago. > > The most important thing is that we need someone (or a group of people) > who care about such an archive. I donīt have time left. NO. > Anyone, anyone, Lawry Simm ? > > What I actually did was to reserve a 3 MB *free* web space on http://www.geocities.com > and build up a quick and dirty 1st draft with no content so far. > > Choose 'File manager' on the geocities web site, > the membername is 'tadreamlist', > the password 'rocks' > to upload or edit files. > > tadreamlist rocks, eh ? > > The crappy 1st draft is to be found at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/3748/ > > The only important thing is to include a geocities link on each HTML page. > if ASCII files are used (*.txt) thereīs no need for any geocities advert. > > So Steven, now itīs your ball... ;-) > Delete and/or edit the stuff. ;-) > > Kind Regards > > Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:13 am Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > > > Hell yeah! Finally it is said with precision and truth! There is no > bloody Keep cassette! There is no bloody LP! I know just about every Then what's that *thing* you were holding for Steve in your apartment, next to the soundtracks case? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 12:23 pm Subject: Re: keep cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:53:46 -0400, you wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: KRAUSENECKS > > >Hi Gang, > I recently acquired a spare copy of THE KEEP official copy, with the slipcase on cd. This is the copy which was only sold overseas at the concerts ( and at a few specialty shops). I paid more than your average cd cost for it and am taking bids on it. Keep in mind while this has been stated as it will be domestically released, it still HAS NOT. If it does ever see the light of day, I will be happy , but in the meantime.......please feel free to make an offer. Highest takes the prize. By the if someone can show me photographic proof of the so called KEEP lp I will pay $100.00. So there Mr. Feldman! >PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS LIST!!!!! >Chris >Bruno@c... > I bid $1. Let me know if mine's the highest offer... -- Mike Livsey 'A woman is a lot like a beer; they smell good, they look good, and you would step over your own mother just to get one. But you can't stop at just one; you wanna drink another woman.' --Homer J. Simpson From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 7:14 pm Subject: Re: keep cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: OIK I have been sitting here pretty silently listening to all of this riggomoroar about The Keep, and my question is, if this cd exists, why won't anyone put out sound samples on the web for us to listen to? Be it Wavs, mp3's, RealAudio's, whatever, lets hear it...share a little of the wealth and pleasure of listening to it with everyone. If you need web space to publish it on, I can provide that, between my web page, my girlfriends(Jen's) webpage(which will have a sectiopn about TD very soon) and the space my provider gives me, I am sure that I can find all the spce you will be needing, just let me know when it is ready. The controversy of it's release can be easily solved, if you are willing to do a little bit of digging. According to the Transfer of Information act of 1972, passed by the UN, any published matreial made after that date MUST be registered with the country in which it was published(that is of course if it is a country in the UN) and that these reccords are to be public. I know here in the US I can go to any library and look up all of the CD's, books, magaziens, and pamphlets that were published in the past year. So if you know what country it was published in, someone in that country just needs to do a little digging. That is my 2 cents...can I get some change? -- OIK visit my home page at http://oik.home.ml.org sign up for my Philosophy Mailing List at http://oik.home.ml.org/mail_list.html Visit http://www.suite101.com/topics/page.cfm/748 and read my article on Enigma last but not least, Have a Nice Day :o) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:46 am Subject: Re: keep cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) > >>PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS LIST!!!!! >>Chris > > >I bid $1. Let me know if mine's the highest offer... I'll meet your $1 and raise you $1.50!!!!!!! ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 7:03 am Subject: Re: Poland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: MPOORT It's Polish, but other than a few words of greeting and the obvious introduction at the end I have no idea what is said (I do Russian, not Polish). I am interested also in what is said, though I suspect it it pretty mundane....... MPoort Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13009 Re: Poland Andrew J. Rozsa Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 9:38 am Subject: Re: New vs. Old ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: Vicky Rudd > > I've noticed that everyone here has been a fan of TD for many years and is > thusly put off by any of the new music. I don't believe the new music is > any better or worse than the old music, IMVHO, of course. After all, it > was the new music that attracted me to TD in the first place. And I still > haven't been exposed to a whole lot of the old music. Yet I still love TD. > My favorite CD would have to be ToB. And I started with Legend, which > would be my next favorite. My extremely small (but growing as I have the > $$$) collection consists of Canyon Dreams, 220 Volt Live, Rockoon, Goblin's > Club, Turn of the Tides, Private Music, Dream Mixes 2, and the 2 I > mentioned above. Through a friend of mine, I have been exposed to some of > the older stuff as well, like Rubycon and Phaedra. > > It's all in your perception. And I do realize that perception is 99% of > reality. True, the new stuff is different, but that's all it > is...different. Give the new stuff a break... you might find you actually > enjoy it. I certainly have. > > Victoria > Sunset: That moment in which the luminous aura of the moon > replaces the last blazing remnants of the sun... He..He..He..Shame you weren't on the list a couple of months ago......:-)) I actually have the opposite problem...what does everyone see (or hear?) in the older stuff? I do like some pieces of old stuff (pre 90's), I love Green Desert (save the title track!), but for me the newer stuff is just sooooo much better. More tuneful, better structure, more feeling.. I could go on but not being a music guru I'll leave it there. IMHO GC is *the* best TD (save DM maybe) ever... Colin not wanting to re-start the '90's stuff is crap!' thread but fearing it may be just too late... n.p. Rutles--Archaeology. 'The children weep, they are a crying, For their Ma, she is a frying.' --'Ode to a witch' KSC '98 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13018 Re: New vs. Old Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13078 Re: New vs. Old Colin Knowles Fri 4/17/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 9:59 pm Subject: Re: white eagle cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Flemming Larsen Meshy wrote : >I got out my old WE cd t'nite, and noticed it was dropping out all over the >place (kinda like pausing it for a half sec. or less and then unpausing it-) It's a phenomenon called cd-rot. The CD isn't rotting away, it's corroding. This is caused by microscopic holes in the plastic covering the silver layer. Air can then get in touch with the silver layer, causing it to corrode away leaving a small pinhole. Poor production is most often the cause of the problem. I have a few CDs with the same problem. LiveMiles and a few other non-TD CDs. Flemming, Denmark. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 9:59 pm Subject: Re: Tangerine Ambience II ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Flemming Larsen feldon@p... wrote : >Just wanted to wholeheartedly recommend that anyone who doesn't already >have it, get Tangerine Ambience II. Can't agree with you more :-) > #1 it's 100% analog according to the cover. Not quite 100%. I know for a fact that the CD features Roland JD800, KorgX2 Yamaha CS1x (possibly digitals too), and samples. F.ex White Eagle was made almost exclusively on a KorgX2. I know, I was there ! Don't believe the instruments list in the cover. It only states the analog machines :-/ Flemming, Denmark. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 11:44 am Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: David Datta : Really-From: Mark Fonda : Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-) It refers to the re-working of older material as done in the Tangent's box set. Some tracks were reproduced with only clean-up and remastering. Others were messed with, new back tracks, different speeds, added drums, etc.. The messed with tracks are said to be tangentized. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 12:39 pm Subject: RE: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >I just refuse to believe that! I mean, how much does a cassette or LP cost? >As long as I see these stories and no-one has proof, I don't believe it was >released, sorry. We're not talking UFO's here, we're talking about an album! What's so hard to believe? The thing I DON'T believe is that it wasn't released, TD statements notwithstanding. They've gotten plenty of information wrong before, either accidentally or intentionally, so I'm more likely to believe Steven and the Keep Patrol than Ed himself. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 12:55 pm Subject: RE: Poland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Could someone please translate the intro to the Poland CD? Is it German or >Polish? This should be added to the FAQ, no? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 12:52 pm Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: Mark Fonda > > Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-) > > Mark 'Tangentized' is a neologism that we, the people on this list, have created following the release of the 'Tangent' boxset. TD released that 5 CD boxset in 1994, featuring some previously unrealeased tracks as well as some old classics, but those were remixed, with added sounds and effects on top of the previously released track. Some people liked it, some people hated it. This technic of making 'new' with 'old' has been dubbed 'tangentizing', and can now be found on several other CD released after. I hope this answers your question. C.B. Vincent Goudreault autonomously breathing since 11:50 AM EST February 17 1957 online since early 1993, TD fan since 1977 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 1:15 pm Subject: Re: Poland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 03:03 AM 4/16/1998 EDT, MPOORT wrote: > >It's Polish, but other than a few words of greeting and the obvious >introduction at the end I have no idea what is said (I do Russian, not >Polish). > >I am interested also in what is said, though I suspect it it pretty >mundane....... Vic?? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 1:17 pm Subject: Keep attn DAN/Eman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS I see the two yucksters are back..or did they never leave. I tell you what I will split it with E and Dano each of you send me .50 cents and I'll cut it in half. HEH HEH! Chris 'Bruno' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13021 Re: Keep attn DAN/Eman Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 12:59 pm Subject: Re: POLAND ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz' The introduction to 'Poland' can be translated this way: 'Good evening. State artistic agency PAGART and State Entertainment Eterprises IMPART invites You to to a concert of a group, being one of the creators of the style, called electronic rock. (...) Before You: Chris Franke, Johannes Schmoelling and Edgar Froese - or Tangerine Dream.' Of course it's Polish - what else language can it be with a title like that?!! I indicated that a part of the prerecorded presentation was deleted (it was rather long. The voice belongs to Jerzy Kordowich, Polish DJ, presenting in his programs only electronic music (he is active to this day and very verbose guy). Both of 'agencies', governmentally run (as everything at that time) are, as far as I know, now defunct. BTW: I don't want to be offensive, but it's for the asker: German language is completly different from Polish. They are not even in the same language group: Polish is Slavic and German is... of course, Germanic. With the ear like that, how can You listen to music? It reminds me the joke about the first grade of musical education: it is when one knows that the music is played. And some additional remarks about the concert on POLAND:There were two shows in Warsaw, at 16:00 and 19:00, as far as I remember. There was only one power outage during the first show, not several, as was mentioned on the list some time ago. The break happened some 15 minutes into the first set. The fuses blew, because some cretins did not switched them to stronger ones, as was specified by the band in the contract. The second set went without hindrance. (The power was down for some 25 minutes. After the first set there appeared Edgar Froese and some Polish guy. He translated that after what happened the band will take only 10-minute break, although normally it lasts 15 minutes. After that there was a 20-minute break :-)) During it some young man on the floor danced rasta; there were those who joked that the band can pack up and go - they are not needed anymore.) A few weeks later Polish TV shown half-hour long film with the part of the first set from the second concert (up until the end of the first movement of 'Tangent'). So I suppose the full material should be still somewhere in the vaults. As for the contents of the show (at least the first one): - in the second set there was 'Kiev Mission' with vocal part in Polish; as far as I remember after the second movement of 'Barbakane' - the set ended with identical finale as 'Pergamon'. This was cut out on the CD; maybe bearded Eddie did not (then) like to repeat himself? - after the first show there was only one encore: 'Choronzon'. All the audience in the rows stood up and banged to the rythm with folding chairs. The noise was something awesome. After the second show there were three encores: 'Choronzon', 'Rarebird' and something else, 'White Eagle' I suppose. For a long time my secret hope was that with the re-issue of 'Poland' the full version of the show would be presented. Alas, it was not to be. I've been there. I remember. If you look closely to photo 85 in 'The Dream Roots Collection', you will see a nasty camera snout lurking behind Johannes S. Don't know who compiled the data to this booklet - did Edward forgot the Warsaw shows were in '83, not '84? It was 10th of December - so close, but no cigar. P.S. If somebody could help me obtain 'Three Tier Dreams', 'Three Tier Dreams Too' and 'Spherical Harmonics One', I would be grateful till the grave - as the Polish saying go. You may contact me at markmast@k... Marek the Alienist (Polish, of course - whaddya think?) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13013 Re: POLAND Vic Rek Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 13017 Re: POLAND feldon@p... Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13062 Re: POLAND Michael Fox Fri 4/17/1998 2 KB 13035 Re: POLAND Plumer, Scott Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13072 Re: POLAND jowers Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13077 Re: POLAND Michal Balcerzak Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 2:08 pm Subject: Re: An (penny-less) Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-15 23:39:50 EDT, you write: << Don't any of you morons seeing this release carry more than $15 bucks around with you!! Sheesh!! >> or at least beg the store owner to hold it for you? tom w np: techno animal vs. reality From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 2:42 pm Subject: Re: POLAND ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz' > > The introduction to 'Poland' can be translated this way: > 'Good evening. State artistic agency PAGART and State Entertainment > Eterprises IMPART invites You to to a concert of a group, being one of the > creators of the style, called electronic rock. (...) Before You: Chris > Franke, Johannes Schmoelling and Edgar Froese - or Tangerine Dream.' Thanks Marek for posting this. I was sitting here (at work) picking my brain trying to remember the exact words without the CD playing. Sounds right on! Well, once less task when I get home. > BTW: I don't want to be offensive, but it's for the asker: German language > is completly different from Polish. They are not even in the same language > group: Polish is Slavic and German is... of course, Germanic. With the ear > like that, how can You listen to music? > It reminds me the joke about the first grade of musical education: it is > when one knows that the music is played. This comment is along the lines of an American freshmen college student being given a geography exam. Some 40% of the entering college students could not identify Japan on a world map and some thought that Europe is a country! > After that there was a 20-minute break :-)) During it some young man on the > floor danced rasta; there were those who joked that the band can pack up and > go - they are not needed anymore.) Was it the vodka or the music? > As for the contents of the show (at least the first one): > - in the second set there was 'Kiev Mission' with vocal part in Polish; as This I've gotta have! Anyone have this on tape? > P.S. If somebody could help me obtain 'Three Tier Dreams', 'Three Tier > Dreams Too' and 'Spherical Harmonics One', I would be grateful till the > grave - as the Polish saying go. You may contact me at markmast@k... > Marek the Alienist (Polish, of course - whaddya think?) Yes Marek, I can help you, and BTW your package was mailed today :-) Thanks for the great post! Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13017 Re: POLAND feldon@p... Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13062 Re: POLAND Michael Fox Fri 4/17/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:32 pm Subject: (none) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> unsubscribe molasar-digest subscribe tadream-digest Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13015 (none) Lars R. Jones Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13016 What list is this, exactly? Sean Montgomery Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13019 Re: (none) Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:32 pm Subject: (none) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> unsubscribe mark shreeve-digest subscribe tadream-digest From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:33 pm Subject: What list is this, exactly? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> > > unsubscribe molasar-digest > subscribe tadream-digest Lars, you kill me! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:53 pm Subject: Re: POLAND ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 10:42 AM 4/16/98 -0400, you wrote: >Really-From: Vic Rek > >> Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz' >> >> The introduction to 'Poland' can be translated this way: >> 'Good evening. State artistic agency PAGART and State Entertainment >> Eterprises IMPART invites You to to a concert of a group, being one of the >> creators of the style, called electronic rock. (...) Before You: Chris >> Franke, Johannes Schmoelling and Edgar Froese - or Tangerine Dream.' > >Thanks Marek for posting this. I was sitting here (at work) picking my >brain trying to remember the exact words without the CD playing. Sounds >right on! Well, once less task when I get home. > I still have some of the intro memorized even though I don't speak or understand a word of Polish! Polska adencia testitchna pagaruut. forgive me! Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:09 pm Subject: Re: New vs. Old ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Colin Knowles > > IMHO GC is *the* best TD (save DM maybe) ever... > > Colin not wanting to re-start the '90's stuff is crap!' thread but fearing it may > be just too late... Everyone has their favorites...but why would you place GC above Force Majuere, Tangram, Underwater Sunlight and Poland? ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:23 pm Subject: Re: (none) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> > >unsubscribe mark shreeve-digest >unsubscribe molasar-digest >subscribe tadream-digest Hahahahaha!!!! One of the coolest jokes I've seen for a while! ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:31 pm Subject: Re: keep cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dave Lane' KRAUSENECKS wrote: > [...] By the if someone can show me photographic proof of the so called > KEEP lp I will pay $100.00. So there Mr. Feldman! > PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS = > LIST!!!!! How's this for proof? http://members.tripod.com/~Beige/keepstrk.gif --Dave the 'scurge' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13022 Re: keep cd Sean Montgomery Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:32 pm Subject: Re: Keep attn DAN/Eman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >Really-From: KRAUSENECKS > > >I see the two yucksters are back..or did they never leave. I tell you what I will split it with E and >Dano each of you send me .50 cents and I'll cut it in half. HEH HEH! Sounds like a good deal....but it was Mike and I, haha...unless Dan wants to contribute, then we can break it into three pieces! [Now, the dilemma is whether to send this post to the Molasar list or the Tadream list...hmm....] ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:32 pm Subject: Re: keep cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > How's this for proof? > > http://members.tripod.com/~Beige/keepstrk.gif Not bad...but it looks like a 'text-added-in-Photoshop' job to me! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:47 pm Subject: Re: keep cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) > > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:53:46 -0400, you wrote: > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Really-From: KRAUSENECKS > > > > > >Hi Gang, > > I recently acquired a spare copy of THE KEEP official copy, with the slipcase on cd. This is the copy which was only sold overseas at the concerts ( and at a few specialty shops). I paid more than your average cd cost for it and am taking bids on it. Keep in mind while this has been stated as it will be domestically released, it still HAS NOT. If it does ever see the light of day, I will be happy , but in the meantime.......please feel free to make an offer. Highest takes the prize. By the > >PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS LIST!!!!! > >Chris > >Bruno@c... > > > I bid $1. Let me know if mine's the highest offer... > -- > Mike Livsey I bid $2. Nyah! BTW Mike, will you delete that little quote at the end of your posts...I'm sick of deleting it anytime I respond to your posts, hehehe. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:46 pm Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > > > > > > Hell yeah! Finally it is said with precision and truth! There is no > > bloody Keep cassette! There is no bloody LP! I know just about every > > Then what's that *thing* you were holding for Steve in your apartment, next > to the soundtracks case? Oh that...hehehe. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:51 pm Subject: Tasubscribe Undream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Thank you Lars for a much needed laugh. I'm dreading 'The Keep' thread again. Thank God for the Polish guy. I've always wondered what that intro was, so the week wasn't a complete loss....David N.P. YesYears Disc 3 BTW...Vicky...I'm not sure I would call Billy Sherwood part of the Yes Alumni, but then again if he played on just one album or during one show.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:52 pm Subject: tangerine ambiance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: NAdams43 hi lawry you could try c&d services on 01382 736702 for the tangerine ambiance albums,i seem to remember seeing it in one of there catalogues.if they havent got it in stock they will definately be able to order it for you.i dont know if you know them but i get most of my music from them they are very good, if you ever new andy gariboldi from lotus records,he helps to run it.they havent got an e mail address yet but it is the pipeline so ive been assured. regards nick. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:58 pm Subject: Force majeure ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Everyone has their favorites...but why would you place GC above Force > Majuere, Tangram, Underwater Sunlight and Poland? > > ::E:: Elias, it is spelled Majeure -- C.B. Vincent Goudreault autonomously breathing since 11:50 AM EST February 17 1957 online since early 1993, TD fan since 1977 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13033 Re: Force majeure Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 5:11 pm Subject: tadream archives ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steve_Whiteley@N... (Steve Whiteley) Hey Dream Surfers, For those of you who dont have web or ftp access, I saw this advice on the goldtri list. Send mail to majordomo@c... with Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13030 tadream archives Steve Whiteley Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13038 Re: tadream archives Tom Gerardy Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13036 Re: tadream archives Jens Peschke Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:12 pm Subject: Offtopic: B.S. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > BTW...Vicky...I'm not sure I would call Billy Sherwood part of the Yes Alumni, He is now...it's his second tour and first album as more than a sideman...Billy's dream come true! Steve Howe's lookin' pretty scary in his age, so I don't know if the gig's all that good...reminds me of Dawn of the Dead... ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 5:17 pm Subject: tadream archives ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steve_Whiteley@N... (Steve Whiteley) Hey Dream Surfers, For those of you who dont have web or ftp access, I saw this advice on the goldtri list. Send mail to majordomo@c... with get tadream-digest v16.n001 in the body of the text I tried going for other volumes (v01, v10) but neither was successful. Anyone have more details? Steve p.s. Sorry about the incomplete message, Cntrl E sends the mail instead of going to the end of the line. live and learn. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13038 Re: tadream archives Tom Gerardy Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 5:30 pm Subject: Re: Force Majeure Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 05:59 AM 4/15/98 +0100, you wrote: >Really-From: Stephen Yensen > > >To my employers, if they're eavesdropping on this (I doubt it - they're >probably still in bed): >Sorry, but I've installed the NT4 MIDI drivers on my work PC. Work will never >be the same again :-)) Those MIDI drivers still depend on the strenth of the soundcard, right? And if it is a standard 16-bit soundcard, then it has terrible MIDI samples. May I suggest a software program called WinGroove? It emulates wavetable synthesis in software and comes with a 512k sample pack. Very good sound quality. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 5:31 pm Subject: Re: The Pink Years CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... I cannot believe we have the Pink Years CD and Tournado at the local shops already, but still no Ambient Monkeys or Timesquare. What is the deal??? Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:33 pm Subject: Re: Force majeure ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Vincent Goudreault > > > Everyone has their favorites...but why would you place GC above Force > > Majuere, Tangram, Underwater Sunlight and Poland? > > Elias, > > it is spelled Majeure [sorry, Vince, typos happen] ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 5:27 pm Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 09:43 PM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' >> Really-From: 'Brian E. Kirby' >> >> > On TDI's first promo sheet, the following CDs have been announced: >> > >> > Back catalogue >> > - Optical Race (1988) >> > - Lily on the beach (1989) >> > - Dream Mixes Vol. I (2-CD-version by TDI, 1995) >> > - Melrose (1990) >> > - Rockoon (1991) >> > - 220 Volt live (1992) >> > - Turn of the tides (1993) >> > - Tyranny of beauty (1994) >> > - Oasis (1997) >> > - Tournado - Live in Europe (1997) >> >> Alright, I'm opening myself up for some abuse for this (in all >> probability), but I'm sure as hell hoping that there will be the >> rumored 'missing tracks' from Melrose that supposedly were cut to get >> the running time under an hour. >> >> -B. Kirby Didn't this extra material appear on the Private Music of Tangerine Dream? I have this CD and 3? unreleased tracks are great. Morgan feldon@p... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13169 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Brian E. Kirby Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 5:48 pm Subject: RE: POLAND ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' Was Jerzy Kordowich the same guy who introduced the Warsaw 97 show radio broadcast? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 5:53 pm Subject: Re: tadream archives ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Steve_Whiteley@N... (Steve Whiteley) > >Send mail to >majordomo@c... > >with >get tadream-digest v16.n001 > >in the body of the text > >I tried going for other volumes (v01, v10) but neither was successful. >Anyone have more details? Sure. send an index to *any* majordomo-server and youīll get a list of all the files you can get by using the 'get ' command from that majordomo. In the case of majordomo@c... youīve to send an index tadream-digest The result is a list as followed: -rw-rw---- 1 daemon 5791 Aug 3 1995 v15.n279 -rw-rw---- 1 daemon 45016 Aug 4 1995 v15.n280 [snip] -rw-rw-r-- 1 daemon 93200 Apr 15 02:04 v16.n251 -rw-rw-r-- 1 daemon 84933 Apr 16 02:00 v16.n252 >>>> That means all digestīs from v15.n279 - v16.n252 are available@t... moment. I assume thereīs kinda ring buffer space and as soon as a new digest is available the then oldest will be deleted. Hope this helps Jens PS: the command 'help' helps a lot too ;-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:59 pm Subject: Re: The Pink Years CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: feldon@p... > > > I cannot believe we have the Pink Years CD and Tournado at the local shops > already, but still no Ambient Monkeys or Timesquare. What is the deal??? It seems like that's how it always works out...we get the *crap* very, very near to our wallets, and the better stuff always requires a phone call or a stamp, shipping/postage, etc. ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 6:05 pm Subject: Re: tadream archives ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Gerardy >with > >get tadream-digest v16.n001 > >in the body of the text > >I tried going for other volumes (v01, v10) but neither was successful. >Anyone have more details? Put 'help' in the body instead and the list server will tell you what you can do. Among other things you can get a list of the files it can give you. Older archives exist somewhere for ftp, --tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 6:19 pm Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) > > >Really-From: Mark Fonda > > > > > >Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-) > > > >Mark > > > > > Really cool music....ruined... > -- > Mike Livsey In some cases, very much enhanced. I stand firm in my opinion that the Encore remixes are VASTLY superior to the originals. Just bursting with colour, life, and energy, like they should have been the first time. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 6:23 pm Subject: Fwd: Tasubscribe Undream Wasn't sure if this got posted...did it? From: DAVENTURA Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:51 pm Subject: Tasubscribe Undream To: tadream@c... Thank you Lars for a much needed laugh. I'm dreading 'The Keep' thread again. Thank God for the Polish guy. I've always wondered what that intro was, so the week wasn't a complete loss....David N.P. YesYears Disc 3 BTW...Vicky...I'm not sure I would call Billy Sherwood part of the Yes Alumni, but then again if he played on just one album or during one show.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:13 pm Subject: White Eagle dropout, and other stuff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: STEPHEN_OTT@p... ( STEPHEN M OTT) I don't know who sent in the question regarding their copy of the White Eagle cd having some areas where it just drops out, or whatever, but about 8 or 9 years ago I had a conversation with some guy that works for a company called' Denon Digital', that supposedly prints the majority of the cd's in the U.S. He told me that there are three flavors of cd's...treated, non- treated, and gold. He said that gold cd's would last indefinately, that treated cd's were good for anywhere between 15 and 25 years, and that non-treated were only good for between 10 and 15 years. Anybody with a brain knows what the gold cd's look like....the way to determine between treated and non- treated is this: on the data surface, near the outer edge, if you can see a distinct band that's close to the physical edge of the disk, and separate from the data that's written on the disk, then that would be a non-treated disk, and good for between 10 to 15 years. The life expectantcy of disks is determined by how well the owner takes care of them. They should always be kept in the jewel cases when not in the player. They will warp just like vinyl if you leave them out. And, it is possible for the coating that's put on the disks after the pits are burned into it, to flake off, which is why most disks these days are treated after being coated. Someone else on here was looking for a copy of Luminous Visions... I happen to have a few copies of the tape & disk set that I'm willing to part with for the right trade. As for all the noise on here about The KEEP....maybe it was released in eighty-whenever, maybe not....maybe it was released on cassette, maybe not....the point being ? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13046 Re: White Eagle dropout, and other stuff Plumer, Scott Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 4:14 pm Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz' Re: Introduction to POLAND For feldon@p... , Victor Rek and everyone else interested: In Polish the announcement to this concert is written as follows: 'Dobry wieczór. Polska Agencja Artystyczna PAGART i Panstwowe Przedsiebiorstwo Imprez Artystycznych IMPART zapraszaja Panstwa na koncert zespolu, bedacego wspóltwórca gatunku muzyki, okreslanej jako rock elektroniczny (...) Przed Panstwem Chris Franke, Johannes Schmoelling i Edgar Froese, czyli Tangerine Dream.' I do not know how this message will look like on the mailing list without the Polish letters support software. Sorry for the typos in my first message. The name of announcer is Kordowicz, not Kordowich and not State... PASGART, but Polish ... PAGART. I did this message just after wake-up, still brain-dead (BTW, Victor, Kordowicz is the same guy that cut into 'The Dream Congress' and Scott Pummer - he did the announcement to radio show). Marek the Alienist Favourite ones: The best studio one: 'Rubycon' and the second: 'Stratosfear' The best concert one: 'Pergamon' and the second: '220 Volt' The best soundtrack: 'Thief' (and who knows - maybe 'The Keep'. I do not know it yet) The best piece: 'Cloudburst Flight' (way, way too short!) The best boot: 'Patrolling Space Borders' (much better than 'Encore IMHO) The biggest flop: 'Zeit' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13047 Re: TangerineC Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13068 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13059 Marek Mastalerz Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 13070 Re: SRiser3600 Fri 4/17/1998 2 KB 13074 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13110 Re: Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13115 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13133 Re: Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13142 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 7:26 pm Subject: Exit (was RE: POLAND) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD I have the english translation of the lyrics. I would like to see the transliterated Russian even in Cyrrilic too would be cool to LPT and hang on the corkboard Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 6:59 am Subject: Kiew Mission ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: szatmari pal Pete Penfold (I guess that is your last name) posted the lyrics of Kiew mission on the list a short while ago. Even though the notes say that it was translated by Irina Lazakova (probably a Russian woman) I have some things to add (for those who might be interested): >Continents: >Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, America >This is the world The last word here is Earth not world ( which is almost the same) >Past time >Present time >Future time >Peace, this is peace Now, the Russian word 'Mir' has two meanings: 'Peace' and 'World' and I think 'World' is more appropriate here >To be understood To understand To underst... (uncomplete) >To ask >To answer >To talk >To contemplate >To guess not knowing >Transfer I do not now how 'transfer' got in here. The word is 'Task' >To associate with friends >To exchange opinions >Borderlessness >Reasonable living >Talk >Conversation 'Conversation in the sphere' is the complete line [...] >translated from the Russian by Irina Lazakova. excerpt courtesy of >Alan V Michaels' out-of-print book; >_The_Dream_Lives_On!:_The_Unofficial_Collector's_Guide_To_The_ >Music_Of >_Tangerine_Dream_ This track was my very first exposure to TD in 1982 (along with the 5 others on the album) and it resonated in me. So that is why it is so special to me. Paul Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 29591 Re: Kiew Mission John Vertical Wed 10/17/2001 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 8:01 pm Subject: RE: keep cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Nice Try...but I don't think so...... ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 12:31 PM To: tadream@c... Subject: Re: keep cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dave Lane' KRAUSENECKS wrote: > [...] By the if someone can show me photographic proof of the so called > KEEP lp I will pay $100.00. So there Mr. Feldman! > PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY OR YOU WILL BECOME THE SCURGE OF THIS = > LIST!!!!! How's this for proof? http://members.tripod.com/~Beige/keepstrk.gif --Dave the 'scurge' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 8:29 pm Subject: RE: White Eagle dropout, and other stuff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >gold cd's look like....the way to determine between treated and non- >treated is this: on the data surface, near the outer edge, if you can see a >distinct band that's close to the physical edge of the disk, and separate from >the data that's written on the disk, then that would be a non-treated OK, let me see if I understand: I'm looking at a CD, at the underside (Non-printed). At the edge is a band that's absolutely mirror-like. It's about 2mm wide, then the data surface (less mirror-like) begins as you go toward the center of the disc. Is it coated? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 8:23 pm Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC In a message dated 98-04-16 15:31:15 EDT, you write: << The biggest flop: 'Zeit' >> Hey! I like Zeit. Especially 'Nebulous Dawn'. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13068 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 8:53 pm Subject: Steve Howe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Eman writes > Steve Howe's lookin' pretty scary in his age.... Yeah, you seen Baumann lately? Steve Howe is still my guitar hero and I really don't care how he looks. As long as he can still outplay all or most other guitarists on the planet, I'll keep buying tickets....David N.P... Steve Howe..Turbulence Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13057 Re: Steve Howe Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13086 Re: Steve Howe Larry E Smith Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 3:44 pm Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 01:30 PM 4/15/98 EDT, you wrote: > I just found the following two posts in the guestbook at the TDI >website. Poor bastard, this Sutekh: So....when are you two getting married?;-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 8:48 pm Subject: Re: white eagle cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Antonio Nunes Meshy wrote: > I got out my old WE cd t'nite, and noticed it was dropping out all over the > place (kinda like pausing it for a half sec. or less and then unpausing > it-) > > this is the first disc I've noticed this with. It is the old virgin cd (I > bought this cd in 89), anyone else notice this with old td cd's? > > I know my WE, and logos has pinholes (hold up one of these data side facing > you > to a bright light and you'll see what I mean.), so this may be the problem. > my 'main' cd player is over 10 years old so it may not have good error > correction either. I have a copy of the same edition, bought almost 10 years ago, it also has pinholes and even a few scratches, but it plays perfectly in my 7 years old Marantz CD player. So perhaps the problem is in your CD player. Try a laser lens cleaning kit. Antonio From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 9:14 pm Subject: Re: keep cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Antonio Nunes I don't care at all about the existence or non-existence of The Keep LP, but aparently Steven is not the only 'believer'. Look at the track listing of Electronic Orgy disc 2: 12. 1983 - Fisherman's Morning (The Keep, Virgin promo LP) 13. 1983 - Romanian Road (The Keep, Virgin promo LP) 14. 1983 - Sailing Mission (The Keep, Virgin promo LP) 15. 1983 - Gloria (The Keep, Virgin promo LP) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ But Edgar says you can't believe in what is printed on bootlegs... Antonio From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:38 pm Subject: Went shopping ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox Hi Cats and Kitties! I stopped at a CD store in an outlet mall here this morn and found a few TD goodies cheap. I picked up 'The Collection' for 7 bucks, 'Book of Dreams' for 12, and a CD called 'Shepherds Bush' with Elinor Rigby and Thief Yang... on it (says limited edition #1118 of 2000) for--get this--2 dollars! They also had 'The Analog Space Years' (with poster) for 20 dollars--I passed on that one. Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 8:49 pm Subject: ATTN:Dave Datta Re: Incest Website at www.trueincest.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Any way that we can keep shit like this from flooding the list? Next thing we'll be heading the way of newsgroups like rec.old-ladies.knitting which get spammed with bollocks like child porn etc. This shit really pisses me off. How am I supposed to download my knitting patterns with pictures of bollocks everywhere? Sorry... just got a bit fired up From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 9:13 pm Subject: RE: Tangerine Ambience II ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >>>Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >>>I've never seen either of the TA CD's over in the UK, but I've been dying to >>>buy them. Does anyone know whether they made it here, and if so, where >>>I can get them from? Failing that, any european suppliers? I'm fed up >>>being stiffed for import duty from the US for CD's, so I'd rather not have >>>to buy them from there. > Check out: http://mcs.nl/groove/catalog.html > Kees Damn... I bought stuff from Groove at Alpha Centauri.... I never saw that one. Anyway.. I was all spent up after buying Marcel's CD's anyway. (Amongst others) :-) Lawry Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13516 Re: Tangerine Ambience II K.E Sun 5/3/1998 3 KB 13958 Tangerine Ambience II Lawry Simm Tue 5/26/1998 3 KB 32827 Tangerine Ambience II Kent Eskildsen Tue 3/19/2002 2 KB 32835 Re: Tangerine Ambience II Eric Williamson Tue 3/19/2002 3 KB 32828 Re: Tangerine Ambience II Phil White Tue 3/19/2002 3 KB 32829 Re: Tangerine Ambience II PERGAMON Tue 3/19/2002 3 KB 32840 Tangerine Ambience II Morgan Feldon Tue 3/19/2002 2 KB 32842 Re: Tangerine Ambience II PERGAMON Wed 3/20/2002 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 8:53 pm Subject: RE: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Loved reading those guestbook entries.... Steven, I'm with you in spirit on your quest. I'll be laughing my nuts off with you when you do find one with a (C) 1984 on! Lawry lawrysimm@u... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13058 Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette Sean Montgomery Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 9:03 pm Subject: The Keep (TDI) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >> TDI has only issued the pre-release series of 150 copies Honestly? Only 150? Damn.... wish I'd bought a few more. :-( From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 9:05 pm Subject: Re: Steve Howe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > Eman writes > > Steve Howe's lookin' pretty scary in his age.... > > Yeah, you seen Baumann lately? Steve Howe is still my guitar hero and I ^^^^^^^^^^ Hey, man, don't scare me! And you might ruin Dan's aperture, I mean, appetite... > really don't care how he looks. As long as he can still outplay all or most > other guitarists on the planet, I'll keep buying tickets....David > > N.P... Steve Howe..Turbulence ^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is one helluva album...loved it when I got it back in '89... ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 10:09 pm Subject: RE: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Steven, I'm with you in spirit on your quest. I'll be laughing my > nuts off with you when you do find one with a (C) 1984 on! Yes, but when he does find it, it'll probably have a Flock of Seagulls record inside. This is X-Files Lesson #1: the truth might be out there, but you'll never be able to prove it. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 6:28 pm Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz' Re: Kiew Mission lyrics in Russian Pete penfold@a... wrote: 'I have the english translation of the lyrics. I would like to see the transliterated Russian, even in Cyrrilic too would be cool to LPT and hang on the corkboard.' Continents: Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, America This is the world Past time Present time Future time Peace, this is peace To be understood To ask To answer To talk To contemplate To guess not knowing Transfer To associate with friends To exchange opinions Borderlessness Reasonable living Talk Conversation So, it's apparently time for the indomitable Slav to strike again. Without the Cyrrylic support software the server would spill out just rubbish. So, I will do it roughly according to English transliteration customs. As You hear on the record, the text should be spoken as softly as one could - hence so much 'iy' and 'sch'. But here a surprise: I suspect that the lady singing (does anyone know who that was?) is not native Russian speaker; her pronounciation is way too rough. Kyyevskaya Missiya (that would be the title in English) Kontiyniyenty: Assiya, Afriyka, Yevropa, Avstraliya, Amyerika - eeto Zyiemliya. Prashschedschchiya wriyemiya, nastoiyaschchaiya wriyemiya, boodooschchaiya wriemya. Mir - eeto Mir. Ponimat', doomat', spraschiyvat', atvetchat', gavarit', zadoomyvat'sa Dadoomyvat'siya niye znaiya. Piyeredachiya Abschchatsiya s drooziyami Pamiyeniyatsiya imiyeniyami Biyezgraniytschnost' Sooschchyestvo razoomnoiye Rasgavoor Biyesiyeda Kontiyniyenty: Assiya, Afriyka, Yevropa, Avstraliya, Amyerika - eeto Zyiemliya. Single 'Y' (not after 'I') should be read shortly, as in 'rythm'. 'Mir' could be translated as 'peace', but also as 'world'. Pal Szatmari in his message is wrong in one place. The word translated as 'transfer' is in original version 'pieriedach'a'. The translation is therefore more or less correct; it may mean even better 'broadcast', as in 'radio broadcast'. Surely not 'task' - 'zadach'a' One more remark: as the singer was not probably Russian, her words are sometimes heavily garbled. Marek the Alienist From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 11:09 pm Subject: Re: white eagle cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Antonio writes: > Try a laser lens cleaning kit. Umm, yeah I didn't want to point out the obvious either. I have a little Sony bookshelf system. Every 2 years or so, my CD's start skipping or play a few seconds then go back to the beginning or even part of the last track. I have to take the back off and clean the laser. I just take a Q-Tip and swish it around the pickup. Decidedly low-tech, but it works for me. I never went in for head cleaners or lens cleaners, but I did buy a DiscWasher. Now if I could only get a working record player. In fact, it started doing it just as I popped in EO for the first time. Thought I had gotten a bad set. Boy, was I glad it was just a dirty lens. Just a thought....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13109 Re: white eagle cd AOutland Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13119 Re: white eagle cd Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 11:16 pm Subject: More Steve Howe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Eman writes: N.P. ..Steve Howe..Turbulence > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > This is one helluva album...loved it when I got it back in '89... > > ::E:: > That's funny, it was released in '91...Hmm....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13065 Re: More Steve Howe Elias Granillo, Jr. Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13069 Re: More Steve Howe SRiser3600 Fri 4/17/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 5:48 pm Subject: Re: POLAND ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 10:42 AM 4/16/98 -0400, you wrote: >Yes Marek, I can help you, and BTW your package was mailed today :-) >Thanks for the great post! >Vic Yes, Marek, what Vic said! Thanks for posting the info! Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Guestbook Welcome to the Reference.com tadream Archives ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Well, for better or worse, below is what I just posted to the TDI website's Guestbook: -- Steven Feldman + + + + + + + From Steven Feldman at Fri, 17/Apr/98 01:15: GREAT NEWS: THE COMPUTER INTERNET MAILING LIST tadream@c... --which has been going strong for some eight years now--is now accessible via the World Wide Web! The day's current messages are there, as are archives for as long as four months ago. Even if you don't have e-mail, you can read each and every thing that has been said there. The URL to go to is http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c... Once you've arrived at the reference.com site, there are three main choices: 'Browse Archives,' 'Login,' and 'Post.' The first of these takes you immediately to the most recent messages (a/k/a 'posts') that have been processed into reference.com's system (the time-lag between their actual posting and their showing up at the reference.com site is pretty short). If you want to 'Post' (i.e. send a message) to the mailing list, you must first 'Login.' By this, I mean you must register with the site reference.com. This is no big deal, but there is one catch: you must have an e-mail address. Don't have an e-mail address? There is a FREE and easy place to get one: http://www.hotmail.com will let anyone who fills out their (admittedly lengthy) questionnaire) have a free e-mail account. These Hotmail accounts have a lot of frills, too, if you get handy with the system. For example, the system allows you 'quote text' (reply point-for-point to specific passages of text from a letter you're replying to) and to save mail messages in various custom notebooks. A word to the wise, though, so that no one ruins a good thing: if you get a Hotmail account, DO NOT subscribe to any mailing lists from your hotmail account unless absolutely necessary since it ties up resources and might one day become the straw that breaks' Hotmail's back. INSTEAD: after you've gotten your free Hotmail e-mail account, go the Reference.com website's Tangerine Dream mailing list page, which is at http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c... and 'Login' with Reference.com After registering with Hotmail, registering with Reference.com is a breeze: short, simple, and easy. The system will require you to confirm your registration by receiving and replying to a message via your Hotmail e-mail account, and you'll be off and running: able to post messages to the tadream@c... Internet computer mailing list anytime you want. A lot of really terrific stuff is posted to the tadream list (and some not-so-great stuff, too). I'm sure I speak for everyone there when I say, 'Welcome aboard!' I don't mean to deter anyone from leaving messages in the TDI website's Guestbook, I just want to alert you to the fact that there is a forum where knowledgable long-time TD fans share information, discuss various topics (sometimes at length), compare discographical information, and so on. I've been a subscriber to the tadream list for over seven years, and I've loved every minute of it. Don't be shy. Sign up with Hotmail and Reference.com and you'll be off and running. Once again, the websites are http://www.hotmail.com and http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=tadream@c... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13066 Re: Guestbook Welcome to the Reference.com tadrea Elias Granillo, Jr. Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 11:31 pm Subject: Steve's Salespitch for Hotmail ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA OK, I think that will beat Vicky's poem for longest post to the Guestbook. I have one question though. How would one access anything on the Web without an ISP, and don't ISP's provide Email? Just wondering....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 10:37 pm Subject: Re: More Steve Howe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > N.P. ..Steve Howe..Turbulence > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > This is one helluva album...loved it when I got it back in '89... > > > > ::E:: > > > That's funny, it was released in '91...Hmm....David OOPS!!!!!! ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 11:04 pm Subject: Re: Guestbook Welcome to the Reference.com tadream Archives ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > > Well, for better or worse, below is what I just posted to the TDI > website's Guestbook: I bet all the digest-subbers love you ;-) ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 1:34 am Subject: Re: Force Majeure Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-14 09:49:37 EDT, you write: << Am I the only person here that _actually prefers_ some of the Tangents stuff to the original? Lawry >> I like Tangents a lot. I really believe if this music had been put out singly rather than a price daunting 5CD album, that more new people would be converted to TD music. This smooths some of the edges nicely, adds some melody, cuts the time consuming parts down to manageable bits. It took me a long time to appreciate Phaedra and I am glad I heard later music first like Exit. Once you become familiar with the music, your curiousity compels you to buy the originals; then they begin to sound familiar and comfortable even though different. I absolutely hated Zeit until I heard Book of Dreams which added a bass (thank you, Daventura) that tied the sounds together better, but then made me want to re-buy the original. I still don't play Zeit that often, but at least now I can understand it and how innovative it was. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 1:41 am Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 04:23 PM 4/16/1998 EDT, TangerineC wrote: > > >In a message dated 98-04-16 15:31:15 EDT, you write: > ><< The biggest flop: 'Zeit' >> > >Hey! I like Zeit. Especially 'Nebulous Dawn'. Would you like to lay down on that couch over here and tell me all about it? Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 4:17 am Subject: Re: More Steve Howe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 oh sometimes the years all fuse together From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 4:21 am Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 I also like 'ZEIT' you can't dance to it though... Take it out on a clear night....crank it up....and watch the stars go by. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13074 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13110 Re: Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13115 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13133 Re: Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13142 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13190 Re: Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:14 pm Subject: missing digest #251 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Aured Azhallein Rancuel My computer decided to eat digest #251 before I had a chance to read it, could someone one digest mode be kind enough to mail me a copy? -Thanks Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 4:46 am Subject: Re: POLAND ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'jowers' I'd sure hate to see you if you really wanted to be offensive.... Oh, by the way, my ears are fine. (Thanks for asking.:) I deserved that one!!! Kevin ps. Still.... Thanks for the translate though! > BTW: I don't want to be offensive, but it's for the asker: German language > is completly different from Polish. They are not even in the same language > group: Polish is Slavic and German is... of course, Germanic. With the ear > like that, how can You listen to music? > It reminds me the joke about the first grade of musical education: it is > when one knows that the music is played. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 4:40 pm Subject: 'At Darwin's Motel' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Aured Azhallein Rancuel I remembered reading some speculation on the language used on 'At Darwin's Motel' and thought I'd add some info... A polish exchange student is staying with my family for the year and while listening to Goblin's Club he broke out laughing during At Darwin's Motel, he then asked me if I knew what language it was, I told him about the speculations, Japenese/nonsense/etc anyhow he then told me that it sounded polish, here's a >>rough<< translation 'poorness, more I will not have, (repeated) went I will not have more, poorness, went, went, poorness, I will not have more' anyhow, he said the pronounciation is a bit weird(plus too much background music) so he isn't 100% sure, would any Polish list members like to comment on this? He does say that he's quite sure about 'poorness' and 'went'. -Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 5:09 am Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 12:21 AM 4/17/1998 EDT, SRiser wrote: >I also like 'ZEIT' >you can't dance to it though... >Take it out on a clear night....crank it up....and watch the stars go by. That's it. I am dragging out 'Zeit' tonight and listen to it again. Maybe in 15 years (last time I listened to it) my tastes have changed. But if I end up feeling like killing myself, like last time I heard it, and do it, it's on y'all's heads. Andrew Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13110 Re: Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13115 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13133 Re: Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13142 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13190 Re: Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 8:01 am Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > > On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > > > Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) > > > > >Really-From: Mark Fonda > > > > > > > > >Could someone please explain what TANGENTIZED means?? :-) > > > > > >Mark > > > > > > > > Really cool music....ruined... > > -- > > Mike Livsey > > In some cases, very much enhanced. I stand firm in my opinion that the > Encore remixes are VASTLY superior to the originals. Just bursting with > colour, life, and energy, like they should have been the first time. > > Gabe I find that hard to believe about 'Encore'! Part of the album's greatness stems from it's innovative and unusual use of analog electronic instruments. There is no chance that there would be a remix of 'Coldwater Canyon'.. I'm not sure that guitar improv could ever be duplicated! When was this 'Tangentized' set released? Greg H. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13084 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ Gabe Yedid Fri 4/17/1998 4 KB 13088 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ Marcel Engels Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13091 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ Gabe Yedid Fri 4/17/1998 4 KB 13138 Re: Favorite Live Albums feldon@p... Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13098 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ Francisco Salgado C. Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13100 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ Greg Heil Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 8:32 am Subject: Help!!! Where can I buy import Cd's for my business?No TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC Hi. Where can I buy import Cd's for my business for the best prices? If anyone knows,can you supply me with some cd import distributors? Thanks in advance. Tom TangerineC@a... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13123 Help!!! Where can I buy import Cd's for my busine Mark Fonda Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 8:03 am Subject: RE: POLAND ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michal Balcerzak >Was Jerzy Kordowich the same guy who introduced the Warsaw 97 show radio >broadcast? > Yes, he was. But his name is Jerzy Kordowicz. Michal From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 9:41 am Subject: Re: New vs. Old ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: Colin Knowles > > > > IMHO GC is *the* best TD (save DM maybe) ever... > > > > Colin not wanting to re-start the '90's stuff is crap!' thread but > fearing it may > > be just too late... > > Everyone has their favorites...but why would you place GC above Force > Majuere, Tangram, Underwater Sunlight and Poland? > > ::E:: Easy! More life, ie more energy..ie when you listen to GC you (well OK, I!) want to get up and dance (well, tap a foot maybe!), whereas those you've mentioned (apart from Tangram which I haven't heard, and a couple of tracks off FM), good as they are, like US espec., just make me want to fall asleep! I'll admit that I use GC, DM and strangely enough LotB, as work music so maybe that has something to do with it, I'll not sure. What makes a good album is a strange thing and one little understood (at least by me!). Maybe other people want slow down/go to sleep music. I like (on the whole! I wouldn't call some of JMJ's stuff the most scintillating music ever! wide awake and keep you there music. Whilst there are occasional tracks from the early albums that fit this view, as far as a *whole album* goes non comes closer than GC, save DM as I've already mentioned. You did ask! Colin n.p. 'The Sentinal' - Pallas 'The children weep, they are a crying, For their Ma, she is a frying.' --'Ode to a witch' KSC '98 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 1:21 am Subject: Macula Transfer - two versions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: phil@h... (Philip Meyer) I just received a catalogue that says there are two new releases of Macula Transfer; the original album on CD via Mannikin Records (Germany), and also Virgin have released a version - allegedly remixed and remastered by Tangerine Dream. Anyone know what the differences are? Is it worth getting both? --Phil Meyer-------------------------- phil@h... amarok@c... http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk --------God loves his children, yeah-- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13206 Re: Macula Transfer - two versions? Kees Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 11:56 am Subject: Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: spidey 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' wrote: >He is now...it's his second tour and first album as more than a >sideman...Billy's dream come true! >Steve Howe's lookin' pretty scary in his age, so I don't know if the gig's >all that good...reminds me of Dawn of the Dead... > I saw 'YES' in concert last year on the opening day of their tour. Admittedly, Steve is looking a little weathered but he has NOT lost the fire and dexterity of his guitar playing. Believe me, he was awesome that night. Wakeman was the only thing missing. >::E:: -oscar- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13085 Re: Yes SRiser3600 Fri 4/17/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 1:35 pm Subject: RE: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, America >This is the world What about Antarctica? Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13094 Re: Tom Gerardy Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 10:59 pm Subject: RE: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle) Sorry, Mark, and hello Tadreamers, > Really-From: Mark Fonda > > Peter, I subscribe to Dream Collector and I was looking for facts, not > speculation... although opinions are always welcome here. I did *not* mention you as the one dealing with speculations about fortchoming releases. As a 'Dream Collector' subscriber, you have already been up to date two months before I posted the article about the fortchoming 25 CDs to this Mailing List. > You and others provided us with the following facts which were either not > available for the last issue of DC or were not included for some reason: > > > Right now, the Tadream Production office and the studio are in one > > building in Berlin. With the TDI activities, they need more room for the > > office, and thus the studio has to move to another place. O.k., we did not mention the reason (room for office) in 'Dream Collector', but we mentioned that TD are moving their studio in the 'No US-tour ahead' article on page 1 of issue #21 of February, 16th. > > TDI are due to release Schmoellings 'Zoo Of Tranquility'. Actually, this is not new, even if it may seem so to some people on this List. Thus I did not mention this in DC #21. We have already printed this news in DC #16 in March 1997 (!). > Would TDI (or Dream Collector) prefer that we ask them these questions > directly, or can we just continue to use this mailing list as a resource for > getting information and working out things without bugging the artists or > their office staff? Besides, if TD was not so elusive about their music and > their music-related news we wouldn't have to be in the dark. Of course everyone on this List may discuss everything and speculate about everything. This List has quite another concept than 'Dream Collector' or the official Home Page have, and the result is that discussions turn into other directions than they would do in DC or in TD's guestbook. This sometimes uncovers interesting and humorous aspects, sometimes not. It is up to the subscribers of this List whether they like the way of these discussions or not. 'Dream Collector' does not want to regulate any of the discussions on this List, nor do I personally want to do so. When sending the 'Put an end to TD 'speculations'' mail to this List, I did not want to stop any discussion or to prevent people from 'using this List as a resource for getting information.' A lot of *wrong* points have been mentioned here regarding the forthcoming releases, and the only thing I wanted to do was to tell some facts that could turn the discussion from speculations into a more realistic direction. You can of course always ask questions to 'Dream Collector' directly. (I cannot speak for TDI here.) Even if we cannot answer all inquiries personally, we will provide and distribute all news that is worth to be brought to TD collectors' attention in our newsletter. We have been doing so for almost six years now and we have not got the impression that our readers have missed any important news in that time, but we a sure they have got a lot of information that was unavailable elsewhere. > I appreciate the facts that were presented... but what do you consider > serious information? Serious means reliable. 'Reliable' can be from the band's office, from record companies or from any person that has information which can be proved. 'Reliable' can also mean from fans and collectors who have good sources. > I am very interested in who the current band members are Edgar and Jerome Froese. All other personell that has appeared recently, Emil Hachfeld and Zlatko Perica during the U.K. tour in autumn, were guests. > what new releases will be issued this year, etc. Hopefully a big part of the 25... To deal 'serious': The list of releases has not yet been released. But we all hope it will be long... ;-) Regarding releases, someone on this List mentioned that TDI releases such as 'Ambient Monkeys', 'Dream Mixes II - Time Square' already *are* available. This is true, regarding the sales during the U.K. tour. But the 'Dream Collector' article mailed to this List referred to the plans for official and *worldwide* releases, issued and distributed by TDI or by partner companies. > Just let us have our little discussions and you can stick to 'just the facts' > in Dream Collector and we'll all be just fine. :-) This is a good idea for a division of labour... ;-) I hope you enjoy both variations. Greetings, Peter ------------------------------------------- 'Dream Collector' information/subscription: Peter Stoeferle Fax: +49 / 821 / 155 118 eMail: peter.stoeferle@t... ------------------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13170 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Greg Heil Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB 13171 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Gabe Yedid Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 1:59 pm Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz' > Re: Kiew Mission lyrics in Russian Well, I'll be in Kiev (another mission) within 9 days for a little holiday and I'll stop over in Warsaw for a day (Apr. 29-30). Will anyone on this list be hanging around Warsaw at this time? Marek? Anyone looking for some pirate releases from Ukraine? I hear they are starting to 'crack' down on this now. Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 2:59 pm Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > > > In some cases, very much enhanced. I stand firm in my opinion that the > > Encore remixes are VASTLY superior to the originals. Just bursting with > > colour, life, and energy, like they should have been the first time. > > > > Gabe > > I find that hard to believe about 'Encore'! > Part of the album's greatness stems from it's > innovative and unusual use of analog electronic > instruments. There is no chance that there > would be a remix of 'Coldwater Canyon'.. I'm > not sure that guitar improv could ever be > duplicated! > When was this 'Tangentized' set released? Um, in 1994, with the rest of _Tangents_... Seriously, I have always thought that _Encore_ is one of TD's two most overrated albums, _Logos_ being the other. I don't particularly care for 'Coldwater Canyon', as I've already said (it annoys me), and that guitar solo is really a little dated and 'psychedelic' sounding to me. 'Patrolling Space Borders' is a much better, more dynamic example of that tour. I prefer the guitar sounds used on _Thief_, and the one Edgar cultivated in the early-mid '80s. And of course, there's the 220 Volt version of 'Hamlet' (other live versions I've heard are not as good IMO). Yeah, I'm really asking for it this week aren't I? > > Greg H. > Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 3:26 pm Subject: Re: Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 Hey it could be worse... Steve at least looks better that Keith Richards and is a more inspiring guitar player just put a bag on your head and listen to the music. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 1:45 pm Subject: Re: Steve Howe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: thesmitter@j... (Larry E Smith) Steve Howe needs to eat some meat. First thing I though of when I saw him was the end scene of the movie Bettlejuice. >> Steve Howe's lookin' pretty scary in his age.... > >Yeah, you seen Baumann lately? Steve Howe is still my guitar hero and >I >really don't care how he looks. As long as he can still outplay all or >most >other guitarists on the planet, I'll keep buying tickets....David > >N.P... Steve Howe..Turbulence > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 4:04 pm Subject: RE: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >I also like 'ZEIT' >you can't dance to it though... Sure you can dance to it! You just have to dance reeeeeal slooooooow. :-) Actually, I kinda like it too. It has its place. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 4:20 pm Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > >Um, in 1994, with the rest of _Tangents_... >Seriously, I have always thought that _Encore_ is one of TD's two most >overrated albums, _Logos_ being the other. And I find those 2 to be their best live-albums. (well ricochet and poland are very good too) > >I prefer the guitar sounds used on _Thief_, and the one Edgar cultivated in >the early-mid '80s. And of course, there's the 220 Volt version of 'Hamlet' >(other live versions I've heard are not as good IMO). Hamlet is one of the best tracks of 220V! To me, it sounds a bit like old times, so thats why I probably like it. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... (still friends, Gabe!) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13091 Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ Gabe Yedid Fri 4/17/1998 4 KB 13138 Re: Favorite Live Albums feldon@p... Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Free E-mail Services Other Than Hotmail ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:31:54 EDT >Subject: Re: Steve's Salespitch for Hotmail >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: DAVENTURA > >[. . .] How would one access anything on the Web without an >ISP, and don't ISP's provide Email? Just wondering....David What does 'ISP' mean? Is it 'Internet Service Provider' (I don't remember.) Anyways, ISPs -- or Netscape -- might well provide for the ability to e-mail, but I'm not so sure that they provide e-mail accounts. Hotmail is good in that it not only gives you an account from which you get quote text in mail replies, but f**kloads of storage space where you can file away all manner of old e-mail messages in different customized notebooks. Somehow, I don't think an ISP would provide all of that. I don't mean to hype Hotmail, it's just that it's the only free e-mail service on the web that I knew of when I made the post. I just did a Metacrawler search on 'free e-mail' as a phrase and found a lot of others, such as Juno, Net@d..., and The Free Site. The latter, at , has a page called 'General Purposes Free E-mail Services that lists about a dozen of them. Now then, how does one quote text if one reads the archives from the tadream list from the reference.com site????? -- Steven Feldman + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13126 Re: Free E-mail Services Other Than Hotmail Lawry Simm Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman As I said fairly recently, it is remarkable that out of all of TD's unofficial output, only one item has consistently been mentioned as being seen. Heck, more people claim to have seen the 1984 KEEP LP than have seen the RISKY BUSINESS AUDIO SOUNDKIT (as well they should, since only about 50 copies of the soundkit were made and about 300 copies of the KEEP LP slipped out before the factory re-call). Just to show how many of us here on this list have seen this LP, I suggest that we 'stand up and be counted,' so to speak. Make the header of your post 'ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry' >Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:42:25 -0700 >Subject: Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette >FRom: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Dan J. Schulte >[re Marcel Engels's tirade about not believing in the 1984 KEEP album] >Hell yeah! Finally it is said with precision and truth! There is no >bloody Keep cassette! There is no bloody LP! I know just about every >hardcore soundtrack collector worth knowing and not ONE of them owns >this release, in any form!! [. . .] Yeah, right, Mr.-I-Can-Get-Any-and-All-Soundtracks-Because-I-Work for-Supercollector-Which-is-Omnipotent-in-the-Realm-of-All-That-Is- Soundtrack-Related. How is it, then, that you couldn't obtain the Japanese KEEP laserdisk whereas at least one person on this list (I think it was Jeffrey Au-Yeung) said they could get it no sweat? As for those 'hardcore soundtrack collector[s] worth knowing,' do me a favor: when I finally get proof of the 1984 KEEP LP, tell them that they can stuff their little inflated egos where the sun don't shine. >[. . .] Marcel's right!! Don't any of you morons seeing this release >carry more than $15 bucks around with you!! Sheesh!! As an addendum, I just remembered: I routinely did not carry over $15.00 with me at the time because downtown Providence and the area that the store I saw the 1984 KEEP LP is sorta skeezy and I didn't want to be robbed . . . because as a dishwasher, I couldn't afford to be. I could've bought QUINOA when it came out but didn't have the $. I could've bought the 1st KLEM CD when it came out but didn't have the money. What in the hell is so hard-to-understand about that?!?!?! -- Steven Feldman + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13124 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted! Mark Fonda Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13128 Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted! Dan J. Schulte Sat 4/18/1998 4 KB 13130 Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted! PENFOLD Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13135 Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted! Marcel Engels Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 5:18 pm Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > > >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > > >Um, in 1994, with the rest of _Tangents_... > >Seriously, I have always thought that _Encore_ is one of TD's two most > >overrated albums, _Logos_ being the other. > > And I find those 2 to be their best live-albums. (well ricochet and poland > are > very good too) As far as the live albums go, I think _Poland_ is pretty much tops in my books. > > > >I prefer the guitar sounds used on _Thief_, and the one Edgar cultivated in > >the early-mid '80s. And of course, there's the 220 Volt version of > 'Hamlet' > >(other live versions I've heard are not as good IMO). > > Hamlet is one of the best tracks of 220V! To me, it sounds a bit like old > times, > so thats why I probably like it. Well there you go Marcel, finally something we agree on! ;) I have heard from a couple of people, though, that the 200V version is a studio re-make. I have heard the versions from Ventura '92, and London '96, neither of which are as good as the version on the official release. The Ventura version in particular is much less cohesive, less disciplined, and less in time with the synth backing. > Marcel Gabe Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13138 Re: Favorite Live Albums feldon@p... Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman I held a copy of the 1984 KEEP LP in my hands the day it arrived new in a local record store but couldn't afford to buy it. It sold before I could return for it, money in hand. Steven Feldman ^ ^ ^ SUBSCRIBED TO: Space Music, ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ________ ^ ^ 33 Brook St #3 ^ ^ ^ Tadream, CNI News, P.E.E.R. ^ ^ ^ __--- ---_ Brookline Mass ^ ^ ^ Perspectives, The MUFON UFO ^ ^ - _ \ 02146-6913 USA ^ ^ ^ Journal, the Nausicaa list, ^ ^ | /_/ \ | (617) 232-3876 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ and Nutrition News. ^ ^_- __/_// __ |/ BITNET: ar402004@b... ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ - (|/ '()` <()/ ^ INTERNET: ar402004@b... ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ \_ O .> | ^ HAYAO MIYAZAKI DISCUSSION GROUP: nausicaa@b... ^ /--_/ -__ -- / ^ <*> Address for subscribing: listserv@b... <*> ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ --- ^ ^ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 5:26 pm Subject: Re: ATTN:Dave Datta ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: David Datta In article <6h5vti$1vv$1@n...> you wrote: : Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' : Any way that we can keep shit like this from flooding the list? I have a very long list of things that get filtered from the list, As new spams appear, I add them to the filter list. We have actually been doing quite well on that front. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 5:39 pm Subject: RE: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Gerardy >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > >Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, America > >This is the world > > What about Antarctica? > > Scott Obvious, its outta this world! (Sorry)--tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 5:29 pm Subject: ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Witness Registry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Steven Feldman >Make the header of your post 'ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry' Steven, your KEEP postings pissed me off BIGTIMES. What about setting up your own mailing list ? The ultimative 'Steven *Da Keep keeps in my brain - PLEASE HELP* Feldman' list , eh ? > Yeah, right, Mr.-I-Can-Get-Any-and-All-Soundtracks-Because-I-Work >for-Supercollector-Which-is-Omnipotent-in-the-Realm-of-All-That-Is- >Soundtrack-Related.... Cool, Steven. more on these. :-( However, Iīll unsubscribe for a while. Bye Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:05 pm Subject: Re: A few incoherent remarks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz' 1. Vic Rek wrote that he is interested in taped regordings from Warsaw '83 shows. Well, both shows were recorded. The first tape is of purportedly poor quality. The second show was recorded adequately enough for Jerzy Kordowicz to present it in two parts a few weeks after concert. (No, I do not have those tapes.) 2. I am going abroad for some time, but before that - a parting shot. My other favourite gropu is Pink Floyd. The affinity of early TD for PF is a subject flogged to death, so i won'g into anymore. But: a. Both groups played at least once at tha same place and time: during Ossiah Festival, 1th July 1971. Recently a Japanese (and vvery rare) bootleg of that Pink Floyd gig surfaced: 'Cosmic Music'. We Dreamers have from this festival 'Oszillator Plancet Concert'. I forgot to give it a nomination for the worst piece: in comparison to it 'Zeit' is exemplary easy listening. BTW, as for 'Zeit' being dance stuff - maybe for catatonics, huh? b. One thing irritates me very much. It I something I cannot forgive bearded Eddie. Listen closely to first three minutes of title track of 'Shy People' and then to opening of 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' by PF. Could You comment on foul suspicions of plagiarism, Mr Froese? But seriously, for all those wanting to broaden their horizons, listen to 'Ummagumma' - if You do not know it Yet. So, for now, fellow Dreamers Marek From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:09 pm Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz' Re: A few incoherent remarks 1. Vic Rek wrote that he is interested in taped regordings from Warsaw '83 shows. Well, both shows were recorded. The first tape is of purportedly poor quality. The second show was recorded adequately enough for Jerzy Kordowicz to present it in two parts a few weeks after concert. I do not know how he did it; maybe he just was not concerned with legal niceties. (No, I do not have those tapes.) 2. I am going tomorrow abroad for some time (be back at the end of the month), but before that - a parting shot. My other favourite group is Pink Floyd. The affinity of early TD for PF is a subject flogged to death, so i won'g into anymore. But: a. Both groups played at least once at tha same place and time: during Ossiah Festival, 1th July 1971. Recently a Japanese (and vvery rare) bootleg of that Pink Floyd gig surfaced: 'Cosmic Music'. We Dreamers have from this festival 'Oszillator Plancet Concert'. I forgot to give it a nomination for the worst piece: in comparison to it 'Zeit' is exemplary easy listening. BTW, as for 'Zeit' being dance stuff - maybe for catatonics and terminally comatose, huh? b. One thing irritates me very much. It I something I cannot forgive bearded Eddie. Listen closely to first three minutes of title track of 'Shy People' and then to opening of 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' by PF. Could You comment on foul suspicions of plagiarism, Mr Froese? But seriously, for all those wanting to broaden their horizons, listen to 'Ummagumma' - if You do not know it Yet. So, for now, fellow Dreamers Marek From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 5:39 pm Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > I find that hard to believe about 'Encore'! > Part of the album's greatness stems from it's > innovative and unusual use of analog electronic > instruments. There is no chance that there > would be a remix of 'Coldwater Canyon'.. I'm > not sure that guitar improv could ever be > duplicated! > When was this 'Tangentized' set released? Encore is tangetized from the very beginning. If you hear it carefully you'll perceive the brighter 'tangentine' layer on top of the not so bright live stuff. So since Encore and Ricochet were first than tangents maybe we invented the wrong neologism. Maybe we shall call this 'Ricocheting' or 'Encoring'. Regards --- Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 6:14 pm Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC The first 3 minutes of Shy people is a direct rip off of PF's song. I did'nt even know what I was going to hear when I first bought it. Then when I played it I immediatly said this is Shine On You Crazy Diamond. The shame on you, Edgar!!!!! Tom In a message dated 98-04-17 13:59:35 EDT, you write: << b. One thing irritates me very much. It I something I cannot forgive bearded Eddie. Listen closely to first three minutes of title track of 'Shy People' and then to opening of 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' by PF. Could You comment on foul suspicions of plagiarism, Mr Froese? >> From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 6:30 pm Subject: Re: Tangentize My Brain =:-@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > > On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > > > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > > > And I find those 2 to be their best live-albums. (well ricochet and poland > > are > > very good too) > > As far as the live albums go, I think _Poland_ is pretty much tops in my > books. > > > Marcel > > Gabe 'Poland' and 'Encore' are my favorite live albums--'Logos' is a-w-e-s-o-m-e for the first 20 or so minutes then it gets awry and too bass-y on me and my speakers Cut off 'Dominion'--short, repeatative, TD tracks were never my fav. 'Poland' is a masterpeice--the first and last tracks are the best imo. Track seaperation being 1-2-3-4 on the Castle re-release. '220 Volt'.. well the sax.. ugh.. but my favorite tracks are 'Backstreet Hero' (tops) and 'Hamlet' Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 6:38 pm Subject: SV: Stuntman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Alexander Bjelke' I saw a stuntman vinyl in a recordshop, and I was wondering if it is worth picking up? The midi file was atleast great.... Best regards Alexander Bjelke Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13226 Re: SV: Stuntman AOutland Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 13253 Re: SV: Stuntman DAVENTURA Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 7:11 pm Subject: Tangentization / White Eagle skipping ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Kepler Wow, my first post in over a year... Can't say I've read even half of any recent digests, but I wanted to chime in breifly on a couple of things. 1) Tangentization: in addition to overdubs and remixes, this also includes completely new performances of older compositions. Several tracks on the Tangents set were recorded anew from scratch by Edgar, including Phaedra and the Pergammon piece which was more of a sequel than a re-recording. 2) White Eagle dropouts/skipping: Yup, I've got the same problem with my earlier virgin pressing. Just noticed this last night. Too bad, it has been convenient to keep my old copies at work and the remasters at home. Have fun and try to be nice to each-other. Michael 'Mookie' Kepler From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 8:21 pm Subject: Another trick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Hello TaDreamers! I can't help telling you my recent find ; but as I like storytelling, I will tell you the whole thing. A couple of weeks ago, I was chating with a [feminine] collegue of music, especially of progressive rock. She told me that her sister was a great fan. Neither her nor her sister knew too much about TD. So I proposed myself to let them hear a best of TD on tape. And so, I have to compile (what I think) the best of TD. As the solo projects of each member and ex-member of TD is (to me) as precious as TD self work, I am going to include EF's Aqua. I will do this series of 'best of' chronologically, so as not to forget any (best) track. Now, I am up to 1974 and I thought that pieces of Aqua will be significative but not unlistenable for a (young)[feminine]{new} TD listener. So I ran my wave editor to make this super-mega-aqua-mix and I must say I had never noticed that the end of the album (upland) sounded like a reverse sample. I re-reversed it and could hear some nice piano notes! For those who can't do the trick, just let me know : I've got a 160 ko MP3 file (22kHz - mono) to let you hear this. I'll put in my homepage as soon as ... well you know, a homepage is always 'under construction'! I can also mail it if not too many ask me. Well, you can say it is obvious, but I'm happy of it. (It's in my way of life to be happy of every little thing). BTW, I can say to the newest TD fans that it took me time to listen and appreciate such albums like ZEIT, Alpha centauri, or even Aqua and Electonic Meditation. Those albums are not very accessible (IMHO) - though it depends on your music listening habits - you may dislike them first, but like them later (so don't sell them / throw away /... ). Hope this mail didn't bore too many people. Fred PS : Don't tell my wife about that. nwwm (now working without music) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 8:27 pm Subject: Re: Miscellaneaous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' 1- unsubscribe tangentized-tadream-material 2- subscribe antique-dreams ; Twilight folder ; (und so weiter) 3- I love 'Zeit' too, and not only to get asleep 4- nitcp (now in the cd player) : King Crimson (half of it) : space groove / vector patrol (projekt two) Steve Roach / Roger King : Dust to dust (sounds western) The nightcrawlers : traveling backwards (clear 75-77 TD inspiration) Tangerine ambience volume II (no comment, all has been said) stone age : les chronovoyageurs (CD-extra with pc/mac CDROM track) http://www.stone-age.net/ RMI : republic (everyone knows RMI) Jiannis : plugged (sounds like 75-78 TD **including Cyclone** 'cause of vocoder) 5- I won't go to the music store until some months 6- Greetings to all Fred From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Transfer of Information Act of 1972 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:14:19 -0400 >Subject: Re: keep cd >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: OIK >I have been sitting here pretty silently listening to all of this >riggomoroar about The Keep [. . .] >The controversy of it's release can be easily solved, if you are willing >to do a little bit of digging. According to the Transfer of Information >act of 1972, passed by the UN, any published material made after that >date MUST be registered with the country in which it was published (that >is of course if it is a country in the UN) and that these records are to >be public. [. . .] Now, that's interesting. I wonder, though, at which point publishing information is submitted: before or after something is actually published. I did various searches on 'transfer of information act,' including at the UN's website but came up with nothing. Care to relay some more information about it? >[. . .] I know here in the US I can go to any library and look up all >of the CD's, books, magaziens, and pamphlets that were published in the >past year. So if you know what country it was published in, someone in >that country just needs to do a little digging. Next time I go the Boston Public Library, I'll go to the government documents depository and see what I can find on the Transfer of Information Act of 1972, there. Hey, it's a long shot for finding out if the 1984 KEEP LP was 'published,' but it's worth a shot. :) -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Feldman Officially Reprimanded by the TD Office ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Molasar's Vague Ruminations on Existence' This is from the TDI Guesbook , April 17, 1998: |From Tadream Office at Fri, 17/Apr/98 22:35: |----------------------------------------------- |It is time again to clarify some major point in this guestbook!!! Some |people NEVER learn!!! |TDI Music sold 150 copies of a soundtrack recording called 'The Keep' as |a limited edition on TD's last U.K. tour in November 1997. The regular |release will be distributed through Virgin Records and NOT TDI Music!!! |The master tapes were sent to England in September 97, so if you have any |complains about the final street release date.......PLEASE SEND YOUR |COMMENTS TO VIRGIN MUSIC, and not into the guestbook (Mr. Feldman!!!). |The band performed its contribution for the product and is not |responsible for politics by Virgin Records. |Regards, - TD office Hey, well, it's a reprimand, but it's the first official reply I've ever received from Upon on High. Makes me feel sort of blessed, if you know what I mean. X-0 -- Steven Feldman + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13111 Re: Feldman Officially Reprimanded by the TD Offi TWeibre361 Sat 4/18/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: AQUA for TD Neophytes? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:26:41 +0200 >Subject: Re: Another trick of EF >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: > >[. . .] I was chating with a [feminine] collegue of music, especially >of progressive rock. She told me that her sister was a great fan. >Neither her nor her sister knew too much about TD. So I proposed myself >to let them hear a best of TD on tape. And so, I have to compile (what I >think) the best of TD. As the solo projects of each member and ex-member >of TD is (to me) as precious as TD self work, I am going to include >EF's Aqua. [. . .] IMHO, including anything from AQUA is asking for trouble unless either of these women are into 'dark ambient' or minimalist stuff in the first place. EPSILON IN MALAYSIAN PALE is a much safer album, but the (two) tracks are pretty long. How about stuff from STUNTMAN (like 'A Dali-esque Sleep Fuse') and/or PINNACLES? And there's some great stuff on KAMIKAZE 1989, too. I've witnessed a lot of negative reactions to AQUA, and that's why I thought I should post and tell you that. I love the title track, myself, but that's me. -- Steven Feldman --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't give a damn on what the journalists are saying. If some dog pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!' -- Klaus Kinski From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 7:38 pm Subject: ZeitGeist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: ami.hassinen@e... (Hassinen Ami) At 12:21 AM 4/17/1998 EDT, SRiser wrote: >I also like 'ZEIT' >you can't dance to it though... >Take it out on a clear night....crank it up....and watch the stars go by. >That's it. I am dragging out 'Zeit' tonight and listen to it again. Maybe >in 15 years (last time I listened to it) my tastes have changed. >But if I end up feeling like killing myself, like last time I heard it, and >do it, it's on y'all's heads. >Andrew IMHO 'Zeit' is perhaps the TD album that benefited most of the remastering a couple of years ago (or was it so long ago?). I think it is just another sign of a good band to be able produce such a variety of material over the years. Personally, I feel that ZEIT still is one of their most important works, like it or not... It was unique music in 1972 and it is unique music in 1998 as well. If Andrew survives his experiment, perhaps he should try this next: put the remastered, single CD version of Zeit to your CD player, non-stop mode and let it play continously for the next 24 hours with a gentle volume... You may not ever be the same again...certainly I wasnīt!!! :-O (the perfect antidote is of course to do the same with ToB) Greetings Ami Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13116 Re: ZeitGeist Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 4 KB 13120 Re: ZeitGeist Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13122 Re: ZeitGeist Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13134 Re: ZeitGeist Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13141 Re: ZeitGeist Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13192 Re: ZeitGeist Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 10:54 pm Subject: Re: white eagle cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-15 05:36:57 EDT, you write:TangerineC: << I also take very good care of my Cd's. I get kind of anal when it comes to the care of them. Maybe this is why none of them have pinholes either. >> Being now frightened to death of what is going to happen to a considerable investment, I request knowledge on how to properly take care of my CD's. I try not to ever touch them with my fingers except on the edges, I use the liquid cleaner about once a month, I store them in a dark place. What else can I do? Thanks. Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13119 Re: white eagle cd Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 4:25 pm Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 12:09 AM 4/17/98 -0500, Andrew replied: >>Take it out on a clear night....crank it up....and watch the stars go by. > >That's it. I am dragging out 'Zeit' tonight and listen to it again. Maybe >in 15 years (last time I listened to it) my tastes have changed. Lessee.....lemme quote a professional I know: 'Would you like to lay down on that couch over here and tell me all about it?' Yeah...that's the quote.;-) Mike >But if I end up feeling like killing myself, like last time I heard it, and >do it, it's on y'all's heads. 'Dr. Rozsa--step away from the kitchen knives, Sir!' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13115 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13133 Re: Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13142 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13190 Re: Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 11:08 pm Subject: Re: Feldman Officially Reprimanded by the TD Office ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-17 17:46:47 EDT, you write: << Hey, well, it's a reprimand, but it's the first official reply I've ever received from Upon on High. Makes me feel sort of blessed, if you know what I mean. X-0 >> reprimand?? hehe...i spit on their grave.... tom w np: DEATH CUBE K = DREAMATORIUM From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 11:35 pm Subject: New Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' I've just sequenced one of my favourite TD tracks ever. Song of the whale (part 1). If you'd like a copy, you know the score. Regards, Lawry Simm lawrysimm@u... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13118 Re: New Midi File jowers Sat 4/18/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 11:45 pm Subject: Re: Disc for sale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Schuelke hi there, what kind of stuff do you have? Michael tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: rmknudson@j... (matt knudson) > > I have the following disc for sale if anyone is interested. > Tangerine Dream 70/90 (#60 of 400). > Contact me OFF LIST if interested. > > Matt > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- _______________________________ EVERY MAN DIES, NOT EVERY MAN REALLY LIVES. _______________________________ Michael Schülke braveheart@a... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 1:50 am Subject: Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and look like a retard!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > >[re Marcel Engels's tirade about not believing in the 1984 KEEP album] > > >Hell yeah! Finally it is said with precision and truth! There is no > >bloody Keep cassette! There is no bloody LP! I know just about every > >hardcore soundtrack collector worth knowing and not ONE of them owns > >this release, in any form!! [. . .] > > Yeah, right, Mr.-I-Can-Get-Any-and-All-Soundtracks-Because-I-Work > for-Supercollector-Which-is-Omnipotent-in-the-Realm-of-All-That-Is- > Soundtrack-Related. I'm so flattered. Thanks ;-) How is it, then, that you couldn't obtain the > Japanese KEEP laserdisk whereas at least one person on this list (I > think it was Jeffrey Au-Yeung) said they could get it no sweat? Actually genius...we do have it in our archives. Ever think I might not care to bother with your requests because of your pathetic ranting? Didn't think so. As for > those 'hardcore soundtrack collector[s] worth knowing,' do me a favor: > when I finally get proof of the 1984 KEEP LP, tell them that they can > stuff their little inflated egos where the sun don't shine. By that time...IF you ever prove it...do you really think anyone would care any more than they do right now? Face it dude, you're the only one who really gives a sh%!. I just hope it does exist...because that's the only thing that will shut you the hell up! > > >[. . .] Marcel's right!! Don't any of you morons seeing this release > >carry more than $15 bucks around with you!! Sheesh!! > > As an addendum, I just remembered: I routinely did not carry over > $15.00 with me at the time because downtown Providence and the area that > the store I saw the 1984 KEEP LP is sorta skeezy and I didn't want to > be robbed . . . because as a dishwasher, I couldn't afford to be. > I could've bought QUINOA when it came out but didn't have the $. > I could've bought the 1st KLEM CD when it came out but didn't have > the money. What in the hell is so hard-to-understand about that?!?!?! What are the other 300 excuses though?? Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 2:23 am Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 04:25 PM 4/17/1998, Michy wrote: >Lessee.....lemme quote a professional I know: >'Would you like to lay down on that couch over here and tell me all about it?' > >Yeah...that's the quote.;-) I HATE it when I am hoisted by my own petard. ;-) >>But if I end up feeling like killing myself, like last time I heard it, and >>do it, it's on y'all's heads. > >'Dr. Rozsa--step away from the kitchen knives, Sir!' > It warms my heart to know that if I follow Ami's advice, but the experiment fails, I am in good hands. All ER physicians, please watch for the blood trickling from under the attachments to your email. Andrew P.S. I just yelled at my son and asked him to quit torturing the cat. You should have seen the espression on his face....'b-b-b-b-but, Daddy, it's not the cat, it's the music you are listening to.' Fine ears, that boy has, just like his daddy. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13133 Re: Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13142 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13190 Re: Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 3:00 am Subject: Re: ZeitGeist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 10:38 PM 4/17/1998 +0300, Ami wrote: >IMHO 'Zeit' is perhaps the TD album that benefited most of the remastering a >couple of years ago (or was it so long ago?). I think it is just another >sign of a good band to be able produce such a variety of material over the >years. Personally, I feel that ZEIT still is one of their most important >works, like it or not... It was unique music in 1972 and it is unique music >in 1998 as well. Hei, Ami Please don't misunderstand. I joke a lot. So my previous comments were strictly for fun. But... I do realize that 'Zeit' was a true milestone in TD evolution and, directly, in the EMusic genre. Personally, I prefer not call ANY music good or bad, but rather refer to it as something that I like or not. 'Zeit' did not come to my ears in a chronological sequence, but rather after I had listened (in that order) to; Phaedra, Rubycon, Ricochet, Stratosfear, Encore, and Force Majeure. So, I guess, there was a kind of audio-expectancy in my mind. Apparently, I never recovered from the shock. :-) Similarly, though, I skipped the years (too busy with career) between 'Poland' and '220 Volts Live' and when I heard '220' I heard myself muttering 'what happened to my beautiful music?' I worked my way backwards and I am at peace with much of TD's music, but certain pieces have never quite felt right, even, though, I am aware of their historical importance. BTW, just for the record, I can't stand most of Klaus Schulze's stuff. Even, if I do recognize his genius. I went through his Historical and Silver Editions. Once. I am delighted that I did it. But, in all probability, I will NEVER play them again. De gustibus non disputandum est. Best, Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 3:09 am Subject: Franke's new film score-Tarzan!?!?! Yep...accept it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' Anyone know what Tarzan, lost city of blah blah sounds like? Caught Franke's name on the trailer & was curious if anyone had already heard it. It'll probably be on Sonic Images and is probably another Babylon 5 score soundalike...woo hoo! Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13121 Re: Franke's new film score-Tarzan!?!?! Yep...acc Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 3:44 am Subject: Re: New Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'jowers' Thanks to Lawry for doing it again! This is a GREAT file! > I've just sequenced one of my favourite TD tracks ever. > Song of the whale (part 1). If you'd like a copy, you know > the score. > > Regards, > Lawry Simm > lawrysimm@u... > > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 10:34 pm Subject: Re: white eagle cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 06:54 PM 4/17/98 EDT, you wrote: > > Being now frightened to death of what is going to happen to a >considerable investment, I request knowledge on how to properly take care of >my CD's. Hey Dell! Give them love, devotion. They will be the next generation of out-of-print CD's Get 'em while U can! Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 10:30 pm Subject: Re: ZeitGeist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 10:38 PM 4/17/98 +0300, Ami wrote: >IMHO 'Zeit' is perhaps the TD album that benefited most of the remastering a >couple of years ago (or was it so long ago?). Ages..no not so long ago. The bass is an easy way for non-TD'ers to get involved. I think it is just another >sign of a good band to be able produce such a variety of material over the >years. Personally, I feel that ZEIT still is one of their most important >works, like it or not... It was unique music in 1972 and it is unique music >in 1998 as well.] Agreed! > >If Andrew survives his experiment, perhaps he should try this next: > >put the remastered, single CD version of Zeit to your CD player, non-stop >mode and let it play continously for the next 24 hours with a gentle volume... 'Andrew.......you know this voice. It is Mr. Mxzyrptlkx. (sorry, It's hard to type with four fingers) DON'T! You will become a Postal Worker! And then.........????????? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13122 Re: ZeitGeist Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13134 Re: ZeitGeist Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13141 Re: ZeitGeist Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13192 Re: ZeitGeist Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 2:41 am Subject: Re: Franke's new film score-Tarzan!?!?! Yep...accept it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Anyone know what Tarzan, lost city of blah blah sounds like? Caught > Franke's name on the trailer & was curious if anyone had already heard > it. It'll probably be on Sonic Images and is probably another Babylon 5 > score soundalike...woo hoo! > > Dano Oh, man, you gotta be kiddin' me...Tarzan? Why? He can't forgive himself for not scoring George of the Jungle? ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 6:48 am Subject: Re: ZeitGeist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 10:30 PM 4/17/1998, Mike wrote: > >'Andrew.......you know this voice. It is Mr. Mxzyrptlkx. (sorry, It's hard >to type with four fingers) > >DON'T! You will become a Postal Worker! And then.........????????? > Ta-ta-ta-ta....or much needed drums on Zeit. Either. :-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13134 Re: ZeitGeist Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13141 Re: ZeitGeist Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13192 Re: ZeitGeist Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 9:01 am Subject: Help!!! Where can I buy import Cd's for my business?No TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mark Fonda > Really-From: TangerineC > > Hi. Where can I buy import Cd's for my business for the best prices? If anyone > knows,can you supply me with some cd import distributors? Thanks in advance. > Tom TangerineC@a... Check out 'Shopping for e-music, from a North American’s perspective' by Andrew J. Rózsa at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/6639/p_shopping.html Prepare to be poor........ 8-) Mark From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 9:07 am Subject: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mark Fonda Steven Feldman wrote: > to show how many of us here on this list have seen this LP, I suggest > that we 'stand up and be counted,' so to speak. Make the header of > your post 'ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry' NO, LET'S NOT... AND SAY WE DID!! I usually just ignore these things, but I'm pissed off too that you KEEP wasting valuable bandwidth with this dribble about the Keep. Who gives a s**t about that... give us a break and go make your own list somewhere... don't waste our time anymore!! Mark From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 9:58 pm Subject: Aqua etc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' > IMHO, including anything from AQUA is asking for trouble unless >either of these women are into 'dark ambient' or minimalist stuff in the >first place. EPSILON IN MALAYSIAN PALE is a much safer album, but the >(two) tracks are pretty long. How about stuff from STUNTMAN (like 'A >Dali-esque Sleep Fuse') and/or PINNACLES? And there's some great stuff >on KAMIKAZE 1989, too. > I've witnessed a lot of negative reactions to AQUA, and that's why >I thought I should post and tell you that. I love the title track, >myself, but that's me. I agree with you, but she told me she wanted to know everything about TD and chronologically (as say JMJ). I told her TD still existed (Matjora too) and she was surprised. I told her the TD debut was electro acoustic and very different of the nowadays rock TD but she said 'never mind'! Incredible, no? BTW, apologizes to the list members who : (1) received the mail titled 'trick' twice, because one of it is a beta version of the second, and (2) received the one titled 'Miscellaneous' after the two previously mentionned. In fact it has been written yesterday and should have been sent before, but I don't know what my internet mail software did. Maybe, _he_ swallowed some bytes the wrong way. BTWBTW, it also happens that I received *answers* [of persons of the list] to others [persons of the list] before the *question*! Incredible, no? Cheers, Fred From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 9:52 am Subject: RE: Free E-mail Services Other Than Hotmail ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' I use netaddress.com which is better than hotmail (I have a hotmail account too) as I can hook my Outlook Express into netaddress's POP3 and SMTP servers, meaning I don't have to read/submit mail through the web, which is a very important consideration for saving money. Unless someone tells me I can hook up to hotmail's POP server for free? (I'm pretty sure they charge for that facility). Lawry lawrysimm@u... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 11:31 am Subject: Thank you, Lawry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Listening to Lawry's midi-files whilst opening tadream mailing list mail is a little pleasure and a little treasure (as say Depeche Mode) Thanks again for letting us share this. Both the choice of the instruments and the arrangement are GREAT! It's time for my little baby to take a rest - I wonder whether the song isn't a lullaby for him! Fred np : song of the whale, part I, through the midi. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 3:57 pm Subject: Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Mark Fonda > > Steven Feldman wrote: > > to show how many of us here on this list have seen this LP, I suggest > > that we 'stand up and be counted,' so to speak. Make the header of > > your post 'ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry' > > NO, LET'S NOT... AND SAY WE DID!! > I usually just ignore these things, but I'm pissed off too that you KEEP > wasting valuable bandwidth with this dribble about the Keep. Who gives > a s**t about that... give us a break and go make your own list somewhere... > don't waste our time anymore!! > > Mark Showweee...Mark pulls up in his Testarosa wearing his mean blue & white pastels...he means business. I'd listen Stevo...Mark knows what he's talkin about...& so do I. Shut the hell up about the Keep already! Dano-out! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 5:22 pm Subject: (no subject) subscribe tadream-digest VCard Jenkins Steve < steve@l...> Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 15502 (no subject) paul todd Tue 4/6/1999 1 KB 15506 Re: (no subject) Plumer, Scott Tue 4/6/1999 1 KB 15526 (no subject) J. Lee Jolley Wed 4/7/1999 1 KB 15527 Re: (no subject) TJames0001@xxx.xxx Wed 4/7/1999 1 KB 15528 Re: (no subject) Joel Mullen Thu 4/8/1999 1 KB 15529 Re: (no subject) Joel Mullen Thu 4/8/1999 1 KB 15566 (no subject) J. Lee Jolley Sat 4/10/1999 1 KB 15567 Re: (no subject) James Horecka, AIA Sat 4/10/1999 2 KB 15569 Re: (no subject) PAULE POPO Sat 4/10/1999 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 5:49 pm Subject: Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD I swear I saw the LP at my local Tower Records. Didn't have the cash @ the time. Came back when I did.....gone! Pete mailto:penfold@a... http://www.artnet.net/~penfold/dev/null 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 6:06 pm Subject: Poland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'jowers' I have a copy of the Poland Double Vinyl Picture Disk for sale/trade. Anyone interested, please contact me off-list. Kevin Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13132 Poland jowers Sat 4/18/1998 2 KB 16796 Poland Derk Fri 6/11/1999 1 KB 16797 Re: Poland yannick.edom@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx Fri 6/11/1999 2 KB 16798 Poland Anil Sahal Fri 6/11/1999 2 KB 16800 Re: Poland Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Fri 6/11/1999 1 KB 16803 Re: Poland Joel Mullen Fri 6/11/1999 5 KB 18070 Poland Gustavo Jobim Sat 9/25/1999 1 KB 33310 Poland Morgan Feldon Fri 4/12/2002 2 KB 34021 Poland Morgan Feldon Fri 5/17/2002 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 6:06 pm Subject: Poland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'jowers' I have a copy of the Poland Double Vinyl Picture Disk for sale/trade. Anyone interested, please contact me off-list. Kevin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 11:41 am Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 09:23 PM 4/17/98 -0500, the Zeitmeister wrote: >I HATE it when I am hoisted by my own petard. ;-) OB for Dano/Eli: heh heh....he said petard...heh heh.... > >It warms my heart to know that if I follow Ami's advice, but the experiment >fails, I am in good hands. All ER physicians, please watch for the blood >trickling from under the attachments to your email. mmmm....no blood so far, maybe he choked on the disk. > >P.S. I just yelled at my son and asked him to quit torturing the cat. You >should have seen the espression on his face....'b-b-b-b-but, Daddy, it's >not the cat, it's the music you are listening to.' Fine ears, that boy has, >just like his daddy. I was listening to the original and the version on Book of Dreams---one of the cats had been on the couch beside me until I fired up the original Zeit. She immediately went to the door to go outside and kill something. Mike Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13142 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13190 Re: Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 12:19 pm Subject: Re: ZeitGeist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 01:48 AM 4/18/98 -0500, Dr. Roszeit wrote: >Ta-ta-ta-ta....or much needed drums on Zeit. Either. Hey--ya know what's cool? Put on Zeit and then make a little loop via the CD player....then after about six or seven hours, let it play the rest of the disk. hehehehahahrrhahrahrhahar!!!!!! aheheh........un......why are all my plants dead? Mikey Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13141 Re: ZeitGeist Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13192 Re: ZeitGeist Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 6:15 pm Subject: Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: PENFOLD > > I swear I saw the LP at my local Tower Records. Didn't have the cash @ the >time. Came back when I did.....gone! Ah, you see Steve. Another one! :-) We all saw the LP or cassette, but no-one bothered to buy it. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Send All 1984 KEEP Album Info to Steve Feldman from Now On ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Apr 1998 06:07:19 -0300 >Subject: Re: 1984 KEEP Witnesses: Stand Up and Be Counted! >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Mark Fonda > >Steven Feldman wrote: >> to show how many of us here on this list have seen this LP, I suggest >> that we 'stand up and be counted,' so to speak. Make the header of >> your post 'ENTRY: 1984 KEEP Album Witness Registry' > >NO, LET'S NOT... AND SAY WE DID!! ... give us a break and go make your >own list somewhere. ... don't waste our time anymore!! Okay. I'll stifle most of my KEEP-related TD musings from now on and not post them to this list anymore. (Those who want to pursue this elusive album, e-mail me privately and I'll set up my own little info forwarding service. It won't be a listserv or a majordomo, but it will go out to those who sign up as being interesting in receiving mailings.) Thank you for giving me a great idea, too: From now on, if anyone on this list gains any information regarding sighting or obtaining or otherwise procuring a copy of the 1984 KEEP LP or cassette (or 8-track?), DO NOT post it to the tadream mailing list at tadream@c..., but to Steven Feldman at ar402004@b... or steven_feldman@h... Likewise, if anyone on this list gains any information regarding the procurement of an audio copy of the 1984 KEEP album and/or photocopies (or photographs) of the media itself (the record label on the vinyl itself or the shell housing the cassette tape itself) and/or the front and back covers of its covering (album sleeve or cassette insert card), DO NOT post it to the tadream mailing list at tadream@c..., but to Steven Feldman at ar402004@b... or steven_feldman@h... Finally, if anyone here finds any *part* of a 1984 KEEP album, such as the record without the cover, or the cassette without the insert card, or the front cover of the record and nothing else, or the back cover of the record and nothing else, or the record cracked in half held together by a shred of paper from the record label, buy it and/or save it, but whatever you do, don't throw it out. Such an unplayable but tangible item would be tantamount to TD's Holy Grail. Is everyone happy now? Now, it will just be the few others who care and myself who will ooh and ah as each and every (so far) false hope rears its head. E-mail me if you wish to be among those I share my findings with via personal, non-tadream mailing list e-mailings. Steven Feldman ^ ^ ^ SUBSCRIBED TO: Space Music, ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ________ ^ ^ 33 Brook St #3 ^ ^ ^ Tadream, CNI News, P.E.E.R. ^ ^ ^ __--- ---_ Brookline Mass ^ ^ ^ Perspectives, The MUFON UFO ^ ^ - _ \ 02146-6913 USA ^ ^ ^ Journal, the Nausicaa list, ^ ^ | /_/ \ | (617) 232-3876 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ and Nutrition News. ^ ^_- __/_// __ |/ BITNET: ar402004@b... ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ - (|/ '()` <()/ ^ INTERNET: ar402004@b... ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ \_ O .> | ^ HAYAO MIYAZAKI DISCUSSION GROUP: nausicaa@b... ^ /--_/ -__ -- / ^ <*> Address for subscribing: listserv@b... <*> ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ --- ^ ^ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 17, 1998 8:26 pm Subject: Another trick of EF ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Hello TaDreamers! I can't help telling you my recent find ; but as I like storytelling, I will tell you the whole thing. A couple of weeks ago, I was chating with a [feminine] collegue of music, especially of progressive rock. She told me that her sister was a great fan. Neither her nor her sister knew too much about TD. So I proposed myself to let them hear a best of TD on tape. And so, I have to compile (what I think) the best of TD. As the solo projects of each member and ex-member of TD is (to me) as precious as TD self work, I am going to include EF's Aqua. I will do this series of 'best of' chronologically, so as not to forget any (best) track. Now, I am up to 1974 and I thought that pieces of Aqua will be significative but not unlistenable for a (young)[feminine]{new} TD listener. So I ran my wave editor to make this super-mega-aqua-mix and I must say I had never noticed that the end of the album (upland) sounded like a reverse sample. I re-reversed it and could hear some nice piano notes! For those who can't do the trick, just let me know : I've got a 160 ko MP3 file (22kHz - mono) to let you hear this. I'll put in my homepage as soon as ... well you know, a homepage is always 'under construction'! I can also mail it if not too many ask me. Well, you can say it is obvious, but I'm happy of it. (It's in my way of life to be happy of every little thing). BTW1, I can say to the newest TD fans that it took me time to listen and appreciate such albums like ZEIT, Alpha centauri, or even Aqua and Electonic Meditation. Those albums are not very accessible (IMHO) - though it depends on your music listening habits - you may dislike them first, but like them later (so don't sell them / throw away /... ). BTW2, when my future homepage is ready, you will also find the tracklist and covers of private compilations. Hope this mail didn't bore too many people. Fred PS : Don't tell my wife about that. nwwm (now working without music) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 7:56 pm Subject: Re: Favorite Live Albums ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... I don't think there is a single live album of TD that I don't like (Except Tournado): Live! Improvised!* (Second set) Rheims Cathedral Mar 1975 Encore 1977 Pergamon Encore* Jan 31 1980 'Dreamtime'* Newcastle, England 1981 Logos 1982 + Logotypes* material Poland 1983 Livemiles 1986 220 Volt 1992 Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Re: Favorite Live Albums ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:56:44 -0500 >Subject: Re: Favorite Live Albums >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: feldon@p... > >I don't think there is a single live album of TD that I don't like >(Except Tournado): > >Live! Improvised!* (Second set) Rheims Cathedral Mar 1975 >Pergamon Encore* Jan 31 1980 >'Dreamtime'* Newcastle, England 1981 >Logotypes* material These're boots so they don't really count, as far as I'm concerned. Granted, there are lotsa nice shows available (widely or not) on tape, CD boot, and CD-R boot, but the vast majority of us here don't have a heck of a lot of that stuff. I mean, it's hard enough to keep up with TD's *official* output! >Encore 1977, Logos 1982, Poland 1983, 220 Volt 1992 Yep. These are all good, yet I find POLAND the least satisfying of the lot. After I play it all the way through, my reaction is always, well, that's done, what next? rather than wowee but that was cool--what can I follow up on *that* with? I find it to be the coldest of all of the live TD I've heard--almost Kraftwerkian! In fact, I regularly suggest POLAND, THE PARK IS MINE and MIRACLE MILE to techno fans who think that TD is a washed-up New Age band--because of those albums' cold, hard aspects. >Livemiles 1986 In my opinion, 1988 marked TD's first out-and-out forays into New Age, (OPTICAL RACE was released the very same year) and LIVEMILES suffers greatly as a result. I think it's not just their worst live album (even worse than TOURNADO, which is only bad in that it repeats what is on studio albums too closely), but one of their worst albums, period. By the way, what happened to . . . THREE PHASE 1992 (on videotape and laserdisk, but not on CD or cassette) THREE PHASE is as much a live album as 220 VOLT LIVE, isn't it? Granted, it suffers much of the drawbacks of TOURNADO since it consists solely of covers of studio tracks, but . . . the versions of 'Phaedra' and 'Logos' there are more similar to those on TANGENTS, and . . . the version of 'Love on a Real Train' is unique in comparison to the two versions (the one that is on ELECTRONIC ORGY and the one that is on the regularly available soundtrack) that appeared on the original soundtrack. -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13304 Re: Favorite Live Albums feldon@p... Fri 4/24/1998 6 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 8:45 pm Subject: A Chance Meeting With A True TD-Head ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Boneheads1 Hi all, I just had to share this story with you. I have started patronizing a small local music store that specializes in imported music. One of the guys that workes at the store (or maybe he's the owner, I don't really know) noticed that I was a fan of Tangerine Dream. So he tells me that he recently was curious if he could make himself sick of listening to Electronic Meditation. He put the CD on and listened to it over and over every day for a week (at home, not in the shop). As a result of this experiment, he concluded that he just couldn't get sick of it. You gotta love a guy like that. Best regards to all, Tim Scallon From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 8:54 pm Subject: Re: ZeitGeist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > >Hey--ya know what's cool? Put on Zeit and then make a little loop via the >CD player....then after about six or seven hours, let it play the rest of >the disk. >hehehehahahrrhahrahrhahar!!!!!! aheheh........un......why are all my plants >dead? NO! You didn't!? You didn't play Zeit to your plants, did you? Just wait until I tell the PETP! Dr. Pacheco Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13192 Re: ZeitGeist Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 8:59 pm Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 11:41 AM 4/18/1998, Mikey ('he'll eat anything') wrote: >I was listening to the original and the version on Book of Dreams---one of >the cats had been on the couch beside me until I fired up the original >Zeit. She immediately went to the door to go outside and kill something. How misguided can I be? I mistook the feeling I get when I listen to 'Zeit' to wanting to kill myself. I think your cat's is infinitely more in tune with his/her feelings than I am: it's 'kill someone'...preferably someone else. Ahh.. now I get it. Dr. Meow Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13190 Re: Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: True TD-Head or Fan Only of Their 1st Album? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:45:34 EDT >Subject: Re: A Chance Meeting With A True TD-Head >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Boneheads1 > >I have started patronizing a small local music store that specializes in >imported music. One of the guys that works at the store [. . .] noticed >that I was a fan of Tangerine Dream. So he tells me that he recently >was curious if he could make himself sick of listening to Electronic >Meditation. He put the CD on and listened to it over and over every day >for a week (at home, not in the shop). As a result of this experiment, >he concluded that he just couldn't get sick of it. The big question is, what kind of music does he tend to like most, and how many (and which) TD albums does he have or heard? My guess is that he likes stuff like Einsturzende Neubaten, Nitzer Ebb, Laibach, and Sonic Youth, and only has TD's ELECTRONIC MEDITATION, ALPHA CENTAURI, and ATEM. (In *that* case, he would consider ZEIT to be like an Eno album, hee hee.) I've encountered several people who ordinarily dislike TD yet warm to ELECTRONIC MEDITATION quite readily. >You gotta love a guy like that. I suppose. Maybe he's like the lead character in SLING BLADE. ;) -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 9:31 pm Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) You know, I've never noticed my cat react in any way whenever I play any music, let alone _Zeit_ (my ex-wife, coincidentally named Cat, often reacted badly to a lot of music I played, especially early TD!) In fact, I just barely notice that 72 mins. of my life have slipped away when I play it! ;) Well since she's in here with me curled up on my lap, I think I'll give it a try. Here we g... Ow. Meow. Meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow. Meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow. Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. goozer --------------------------------------------------- 'Those who believe the world is made up of shades of grey have been staring at the line between black & white for so long that their vision has blurred.' --------------------------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13158 Re: OIK Sun 4/19/1998 4 KB 13176 Re: Colin Knowles Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB 14166 Helpdesk1, Rotterdam IS-ISSR/ Tue 6/2/1998 2 KB 14229 Mathew Hargreaves Thu 6/4/1998 7 KB 14249 Re: Dan J. Schulte Thu 6/4/1998 3 KB 14390 Stephen Yensen Mon 6/8/1998 3 KB 14456 PENFOLD Tue 6/9/1998 3 KB 14458 Re: Sean Montgomery Tue 6/9/1998 3 KB 14476 Re: PENFOLD Wed 6/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 9:42 pm Subject: Message from the Church Of Molassar's Wadded Panties... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Craig Shipley' <> Good evening, Brothers and Sisters!!! This discussion (rant, blathering, brouhaha, fartin' in a hurricane, you choose) has led me to do some deep (yeah, right!) thinking. It seems to me that the existence of The LP & Cassette can only be proved by the poor (Case in point; NONE of the witnesses to The Release had enough money at the time of The Encounter to purchase Either One. It is True, then, that The Release can only be approached by the poor. This explains why I, being a rabid TD fan that was in numerous record stores both in suburban DC, Baltimore MD and Sacramento CA (home to Tower Record, BTW) during The Time of The Release, never caught a glimpse of The Release, because I had the money to buy It (shock and horror!!)!! I was Not Worthy of gazing upon The Release!! Think, brothers and sisters, NOT ONE of the thousands of TD fans that had money at the time, ever spotted The Release, because they had MONEY (gasp!!) in their pocket or a credit card in their wallet!! (Why it never occurred to The Witnesses to ask the stores to hold The Release until they had the money is still a mystery. Perhaps it had something to do with the mystical emanations wafting up from The Release? Perhaps they didn't think, having been in The Presence of The Release and were in a state of euphoria? There are other theories, but let us leave it a Mystery...) And let us now consider the Story of The Cassette. While I do not wish to cast Doubts or Aspersions on The Witness to the existence their experience of The Cassette, I find a fundamental flaw in the Story. The Legend tells us that the Power Of Darkness called for all of The Releases to be returned to it for disposal almost as soon as The Release was in the stores. How is it, then, that this Cassette was in the store for approximately a month? Could it be that The Release was able to hide Itself from the Power Of Darkness for a month, before being recalled? Or did it transform itself into another release, say, something like 'B.J. Thomas's Greatest Hits', to prevent the recall? Yet another Mystery... I also think that possession of The Release is a death sentence. To purchase It is to sign your death certificate. How else can we explain the fact that we have never heard from one living soul who owns The Release? Simple, they are all DEAD!! Doomed to death by ownership!! To gaze upon The Release merely possesses you, but the actual act of ownership KILLS you dead!! Why else, when we hear of tales of people purchasing The Release, that we never hear anymore about it? Would you not declare ownership of this wonderful Item at the top of your lungs? Knowing the value of this Release, would you not set about making a CD Boot or offering cassette dubs to offset the Cost? (Blasphemy!!) Would you not offer it For Sale (Blasphemy again!!) on the Internet or in Goldmine? Why the Great Silence of the owners? I suspect that, upon taking ownership of The LP or The Cassette and slipping it into the doomed one's collection, some great evil befalls them. Heart attack, alien abduction, a midnight visit from the 'Gubb-mint' who knows what; chilling thought, isn't it?? To finally posses The Release and having your earthly days come to a close so soon. Well, at least you MAY have had the chance to actually hear It before you shuffle off this mortal coil... Is your life worth it??? Now, as Sister Edwina Frost sets up a little sequence on the keyboard, I ask you all to dig deep as the collection plate goes around. The Church is in need of a new CD player for the rectory and we need a few new CD's from Brother Shreeve and others. Brother Yens will be passing out Happie Pilz on the way out, so please be generous! I thank you... 0;-) (or, more realistically >;-> ) (For those of you that took offense with this, lighten up!! Y'all are too danged serious for your own good. Go for a walk or somethin'...) NP: TD The Keep (Blue Moon Boot) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Craig Shipley craigs@s... Siemens-Pyramid Information Systems, Inc. 1100 Johnson Ferry Rd. NE Suite 400 Atlanta, Georgia 30342 (404) 845-3404 Corporate Voice Mail (800) 333-5754 x-2023 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13147 Re: Message from the Church Of Molassar's Wadded John M. Poer Sat 4/18/1998 5 KB 13149 Re: Message from the Church Of Molassar's Wadded Gabe Yedid Sun 4/19/1998 2 KB 13160 Re: Message from the Church Of Molassar's Wadded DAVENTURA Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB 13193 Re: Message from the Church Of Molassar's Wadded Michael Fox Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 11:52 pm Subject: Wanted: TICKLISH GUYS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Terri Are you a guy between the ages of 18-23 who is HOT, TICKLISH, and IN NEED OF SOME U.S. CASH? Or, perhaps, a new Windows 95 Pentium II 300-400 mhz. PC? If so, read on...I'm very serious about what you'll discover... My name is Terri. I am a female college student in the Boston, Massachusetts area that is a total TICKLING FREAK. As a hobby...one that costs me ALOT of money...I maintain an personal collection of amateur videos featuring guys being tickled (usually for 30 or 60 minutes) by a girlfriend, good girl friend, girl friends, or even guy friends. I am not a business, video trader, or porn solicitor. My interest is in TICKLING. I am actively looking for guys to make videos that I can add to my collection. Guys that interest me are YOUNG (basically, my age...18-23), HOT (swimmer/soccer/runnerbuilt....on the thin side...not too 'big-n-buff'....with absolutely no bodyfat whatsoever), and TICKLISH! No sex or nudity are wanted in my videos. I just want to see guys tied up and mercilessly, relentlessly TICKLED. If you are interested in this UNIQUE (and hopefully FUN) way of making $$$$, please e-mail me. I need you to provide me with a general picture (.gifs, .jpgs, .bmps, and pictures found on webpage URLS are fine...and I have a mailing address to 'snailmail' regular photos, also) before I can make you a concrete cash offer. Average fees paid: $125 for a 30 minute video $250 for a 60 minute video Money offered is determined by your looks, ticklishness, and who will be tickling you. A limited number of MICRON Pentium II Pro 266 and 300 pc systems are available for guys or groups of guys (e.g college frathouses, etc) that make multiple videos for me!!! Asian, Black and Hispanic guys are ESPECIALLY welcomed and wanted!!! I have numerous online references that are available for contact to assure you of my honesty, legitimacy, and SERIOUSNESS about all of this. PLEASE NOTE: This is not a TICKLING SERVICES AVAILABLE POSTING. I have a boyfriend, full cadre of friends, and plenty of guys to tickle already. I AM NOT LOOKING TO MEET OR TICKLE ANY GUYS ENCOUNTERED FROM CYBERSPACE!!!! I also do not provide videotaping equipment, facilities, or girls to tickle you. All aspects of video production are your responsibility!!!!! Thanks!!! I hope to hear from you!!! Contact me by: EMail: TicklishCollegeGuys@Y... ICQ: 4703485 ICQ Internet Pager (email): 4703485@p... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13151 Re: Wanted: TICKLISH GUYS Greg Heil Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB 13156 Re: Wanted: TICKLISH GUYS Greg Heil Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB 13159 Re: Wanted: TICKLISH GUYS Dan J. Schulte Sun 4/19/1998 6 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 10:54 pm Subject: Re: Message from the Church Of Molassar's Wadded Panties... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 05:42 PM 4/18/1998 -0400, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Craig Shipley' > > ><'churchy'>> > >Good evening, Brothers and Sisters!!! > >This discussion (rant, blathering, brouhaha, fartin' in a hurricane, you >choose) has led me to do some deep (yeah, right!) thinking. It seems to me >that the existence of The LP & Cassette can only be proved by the poor (Case >in point; NONE of the witnesses to The Release had enough money at the time >of The Encounter to purchase Either One. It is True, then, that The Release >can only be approached by the poor. This explains why I, being a rabid TD >fan that was in numerous record stores both in suburban DC, Baltimore MD and >Sacramento CA (home to Tower Record, BTW) during The Time of The Release, >never caught a glimpse of The Release, because I had the money to buy It >(shock and horror!!)!! ----major snip-------------- I think I'm inclined to agree with Craig. At the time of 'The Release', I was WORKING at Paramount Pictures...and knew Mr. Mann, as well as a number of other folks related to the film. I also had a friend/vendor at a store in LA called 'Blue Meanie' who was a TD fan as well as a major trader. He regularly got me copies of everything he ever found (Staatgrenezie, Fassbinder, etc.) He always knew about the stuff long before anyone else I knew and also knew that ANYTHING he found that was related was an instant sale with no quibble about the price. If he had found it...at any price....he would have offered it to me....or BRAGGED that he had it if he only had one (trust me he DID THAT sometimes). Last, but not least, I practically lived in record stores from Long Beach to Pasadena (Poo-Bah's especially) and they also knew what kinds of stuff I bought....saved stuff for me and so on. (All this while I was young and rich...but that's another story). All this combined with the fact that my closest friend is also a TD fan and made me look like a piker when it came to finding and buying records......he never found it either. NONE of this proves it never existed....just that I never saw it and a lot of people who would have been glad to sell it to me never offered it to me. As David says, 'It's just my opinion.......' jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 18, 1998 11:46 pm Subject: Ticklish? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Are cats welcome to your video ? My neighbor's cat (which often squat at my house) is very ticklish when ZEIT is playing. Well, are we, TD fans, sufficiently ticklish to get bored and angry at those non-TD topic intrusions? It's getting worse and worse... can anybody put this mailing list in 'red-list' by the telecom? Cheers, Fred np : TIEZ (ie ZEIT played reversely) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13150 Re: Ticklish? Gabe Yedid Sun 4/19/1998 2 KB 13155 Re: Ticklish? John Majka Sun 4/19/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 12:53 am Subject: Re: Message from the Church Of Molassar's Wadded Panties... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid I LOVED IT! I WAS IN STITCHES!!! Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 12:56 am Subject: Re: Ticklish? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid she must have known this list would make good hunting ground... but how many of us here match her preferred phenotype? are male TD fans athletic in general? not I... Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 12:57 am Subject: Re: Wanted: TICKLISH GUYS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: Terri > > > Are you a guy between the ages of 18-23 who is > HOT, TICKLISH, and IN NEED OF SOME U.S. CASH? > Or, perhaps, a new Windows 95 Pentium II 300-400 mhz. PC? > If so, read on...I'm very serious about what you'll discover... Yah My interest is in TICKLING. Don't tickle me, I become an enraged maniac.. willing to kill anything that tickles.. > > I am actively looking for guys to make videos that I can add to > my collection. Guys that interest me are YOUNG (basically, > my age...18-23), HOT (swimmer/soccer/runnerbuilt....on the > thin side...not too 'big-n-buff'....with absolutely no bodyfat > whatsoever), Oh Pizzzzzzz... No Bodyfat eh? That equates to less than 1 percent of the world, I think. (try Ethiopia, really!) > I just want to see guys tied up and mercilessly, > relentlessly TICKLED. You mean.. legalized torture? > Average fees paid: > $125 for a 30 minute video > $250 for a 60 minute video Let's turn G's Pad into a regular video spitter outter! > Money offered is determined by your looks, ticklishness, and who > will be tickling you. Can I tickle myself..?? WHAT? That dosn't count? I also do not provide Oh well.. there goes that idea :o) Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 1:38 am Subject: Plagia? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Hello TaDreamers! Compare the very beginning of 'Drunken Mozart in The Desert' (Stuntman, EF) and 'The Hall Of Mirrors' (Trans-Europ-Express, Kraftwerk). May be you'll be surprised! Fred Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13153 Re: Plagia? TWeibre361 Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB 13162 Re: Plagia? Greg Heil Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB 13163 Re: Plagia? Elias Granillo, Jr. Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB 13165 Re: Plagia? Greg Heil Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 12:45 pm Subject: Re: Plagia? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-18 22:42:44 EDT, you write: << N.P.: F.S.O.L 'Accelerator' Anyone fans of this album? it's my first F.S.O.L. experience and I don't know what to think yet... >> let the music think for you...good album, not their best imo... tom w np: fsol - dead cities From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 11:51 am Subject: FSOL, new homepage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Hello, TaDreamers >N.P.: F.S.O.L 'Accelerator' Anyone fans of this album? >it's my first F.S.O.L. experience and I don't know what to think >yet... Yes, I'm a fan of FSOL. I have the following items: * Ambient - volume 1, 2 & 3 - a brief history of music (virgin compilation) featuring amorphous androgynous (the group that lead to FSOL - as The Ones were to TD) 3 tracks of them 'mountain goat', 'in mind', ' a study of six guitars' and 'cascade parts 2 & 3' under the name of FSOL. * Accelerator - 1 CD and 2 maxi CD * Lifeforms - 1 CD and 1 maxi CD * ISDN - 1 CD and 1 maxi CD * Dead Cities - 1 CD and 2 maxi CD By decreasing order of fav : Lifeforms, ISDN, Accelerator, Dead Cities. BTW, I inform you that my new homepage features (among other things) * The precise track list of Ambient Monkeys * Aqua ending excerpt in forward and reverse format (mp3 file) This page is under construction (!) and will receive more stuff later. To get the URL, please e-mail me off-list, as I want to keep it private. Obviously, your comments are welcome and will certainly help. Cheers, Fred From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 11:12 am Subject: Re: Ticklish? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Majka I'm a ticklish guy, but I'm likely to punch and try to maim anyone who tries it! John Majka flossbac@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 10:19 am Subject: Re: Wanted: TICKLISH GUYS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Oh Pizzzzzzz... No Bodyfat eh? > That equates to less than 1 percent of the world, I think. > (try Ethiopia, really!) > Not really. unhappily, non fatty people are majority in this world Ethiopia isn't an exception on earth, shy might try as well India, South Africa, Somalia, Kenya, Brazil, Bolivia, Peru, Venezuela, Colombia, El Salvador, Panama, Costa Rica, Albania, Eastern Europe in general...Even in USA and European Union ( including Spain) there are more poverty than you might think. Statistics say wealthy people on earth is less than 30% of the total. But you're right, less than 1% would be willing to spend it's time allowing to be tickled. --- Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 9:23 am Subject: Audition ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Just thought I would post this to the list. I have been selected to audition for an exciting new game show for VH1 called Rock & Roll Jeopardy. The audition is next Saturday, 4/25. Or if you're British 25/4. If I am selected to be on the show, you can bet that I will somehow work TD into my 'let's meet the contestants' part. Just thought you'd like to know....David N.P... Supertramp...Breakfast in America...specifically 'Gone Hollywood' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13168 Re: Audition Dan J. Schulte Sun 4/19/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 16, 1998 3:55 pm Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: OIK I have never noticed any reaction from any of my animals to any music I have ever played, but I know if I play country & western, my girlfriend's mom would spontainiously begin vomiting...does that count?? Mike Daly tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) > > You know, I've never noticed my cat react in any way whenever I play any > music, let alone _Zeit_ (my ex-wife, coincidentally named Cat, often > reacted badly to a lot of music I played, especially early TD!) In fact, I > just barely notice that 72 mins. of my life have slipped away when I play > it! ;) Well since she's in here with me curled up on my lap, I think I'll > give it a try. Here we g... > > Ow. > > Meow. Meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow. Meow meow meow meow > meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow > meow meow meow meow. Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. > > goozer > > --------------------------------------------------- > 'Those who believe the world is made up of shades of grey have been staring > at the line between black & white for > so long that their vision has blurred.' > --------------------------------------------------- -- OIK visit my home page at http://oik.home.ml.org sign up for my Philosophy Mailing List at http://oik.home.ml.org/mail_list.html Visit http://www.suite101.com/topics/page.cfm/748 and read my article on Enigma last but not least, Have a Nice Day :o) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 4:12 am Subject: Re: Wanted: TICKLISH GUYS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Terri > > Are you a guy between the ages of 18-23 who is > HOT, TICKLISH, and IN NEED OF SOME U.S. CASH? > Or, perhaps, a new Windows 95 Pentium II 300-400 mhz. PC? > If so, read on...I'm very serious about what you'll discover... > > My name is Terri. I am a female college student in the > Boston, Massachusetts area that is a total TICKLING FREAK. > As a hobby...one that costs me ALOT of money...I maintain an > personal collection of amateur videos featuring guys being > tickled (usually for 30 or 60 minutes) by a girlfriend, good girl > friend, girl friends, or even guy friends. I am not a business, > video trader, or porn solicitor. My interest is in TICKLING. > > I am actively looking for guys to make videos that I can add to > my collection. Guys that interest me are YOUNG (basically, > my age...18-23), HOT (swimmer/soccer/runnerbuilt....on the > thin side...not too 'big-n-buff'....with absolutely no bodyfat > whatsoever), and TICKLISH! No sex or nudity are wanted in > my videos. I just want to see guys tied up and mercilessly, > relentlessly TICKLED. > > If you are interested in this UNIQUE (and hopefully FUN) way of > making $$$$, please e-mail me. I need you to provide me with > a general picture (.gifs, .jpgs, .bmps, and pictures found on > webpage URLS are fine...and I have a mailing address to 'snailmail' > regular photos, also) before I can make you a concrete cash offer. > > Average fees paid: > $125 for a 30 minute video > $250 for a 60 minute video > > Money offered is determined by your looks, ticklishness, and who > will be tickling you. > > A limited number of MICRON Pentium II Pro 266 and 300 > pc systems are available for guys or groups of guys (e.g college > frathouses, etc) that make multiple videos for me!!! > > Asian, Black and Hispanic guys are ESPECIALLY welcomed and wanted!!! > > I have numerous online references that are available for contact to > assure you of my honesty, legitimacy, and SERIOUSNESS about all of > this. > > PLEASE NOTE: This is not a TICKLING SERVICES AVAILABLE > POSTING. I have a boyfriend, full cadre of friends, and plenty of > guys to tickle already. I AM NOT LOOKING TO MEET OR TICKLE ANY > GUYS ENCOUNTERED FROM CYBERSPACE!!!! I also do not provide > videotaping equipment, facilities, or girls to tickle you. All > aspects of video production are your responsibility!!!!! > > Thanks!!! I hope to hear from you!!! YEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You could tickle my ass...but I'm afraid I'm over the age limit...oh boo hoo. Seriously...how does this stuff get through? Hey Dave...get outta that pub & screen these babies out! Hhehehehehe. Dano-out! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 9:06 am Subject: Re: Message from the Church Of Molassar's Wadded Panties... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA John writes: > As David says, 'It's just my opinion.......' Actually the correct quote is, 'Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.' Just thought I would clarify this....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 8:51 am Subject: FSOL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: ami.hassinen@e... (Hassinen Ami) Kazoong! As far as 'Lifeforms' and 'Accelerator' are concerned, theyīre good, but basically rather techno-orientated stuff (by the way, thereīs nothing wrong with that, IMO). But an average TD-head would probably enjoy more of their works 'ISDN' and 'BBC Radiolive'. Theyīre looser, more ambient music...perhaps these guys are the most imaginative sample users of the 90īs. Their later 'Dead Cities' is much more aggressive material (great O. Tentacles samples there, anyway). If you wear only black clothes, dislike sunlight and are into urban Angst, perhaps this could be your ultimate ambient album ;-> By the way, talking about those drums on Zeit... isnīt there a pic of Franke and Baumann with a drum kit in the Tangents booklet? If I remember correctly, it was captioned to originate from the Zeit-sessions... Well, more likely itīs from Atem sessions. Or has any of you any information that they originally intended to use drums on Zeit? I donīt hear any... Space is deep, Ami http://www.nettilinja.fi/~ahassine From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 7:11 am Subject: Re: Plagia? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > > > N.P.: F.S.O.L 'Accelerator' Anyone fans of this album? > > it's my first F.S.O.L. experience and I don't know what to think > > yet... > > I have *Lifeforms,* which is great...hey, Greg, whaddya think you're trying > to start? Take it to the GoldTri list, pal!!! Hahaha!!! (and I'll see you > there!!!!) > > ::E:: Yah.. sorrie E-Man, I know how quickly offended ya get!! heehee Unfortunately.. I've been waiting for all those great new TD releases to make it here.. well.. I'd buy 'Ambient Monkeys' if it was there.. But alas.. it isn't, and with finals coming up.. I needed some thumping (not Tubhumping) music.. TD Content.. Yay! : Raise your hand everyone if you agree that 'Le Parc' was written by a Skhitzophonic.. as I still can't find any direction in it.. at least 'Optical Race' used the same instruments (ya know.. presets) Oh well.. it will definately be my major proof that all of the Earth's parks are very different.. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 2:00 am Subject: Re: Plagia? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > N.P.: F.S.O.L 'Accelerator' Anyone fans of this album? > it's my first F.S.O.L. experience and I don't know what to think > yet... I have *Lifeforms,* which is great...hey, Greg, whaddya think you're trying to start? Take it to the GoldTri list, pal!!! Hahaha!!! (and I'll see you there!!!!) ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 2:57 am Subject: Virtual Files ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek Well I spent almost 7 hours today listening to stuff that would make your neighbor call Dr. Andrew, but not I. I love this stuff. Too difficult for most, but beautiful to me. I can totally relate to this type of experimental music. This has never been repeated and probably never will be. Between totally drifting away to past memories and lands, I was trying to figure out what went through Edgar's brain when he played this stuff. He must be a genius, just like Klaus Schulze. I've been listening to 7 pre-release CD-Rs of The Virtual Files - a living TD library of live and obscure recordings. Here is a quick rundown of the releases I know of: {}'s mean comments/opinions/questions not fully resolved on these releases. Virtual Files: 71-01 contains: 1. 71 Berlin (FM) interview & Ultima Thule outtake {1970} 2. 71 Berlin (FM) Ard-Jugendmagazin Ultima Thule outtake 3. 71.06.19 Frankfurt University (FM) 4. 71.06.26- 71.07.05 Ossiach, Austria (Welt Musik Festival), Oszillator Planet Conzert 72-01 contains: 1. 72.04.25 Gerandeaus bis zum Morgen, OST (TV), {1971} 2. 72 Berlin (RIAS-FM) 'Klangcollege' {72.04.26} 3. 72/{73} Unknown location {72.06.22} 72-02 contains: 1. 72.11.25 Cologne (WDR-FM) 'Nachtmusik in WDR' 73-01 contains: 1. 73.05.25 Ponts de Ce, France Open Air Festival (2 CD-Rs) 73-02 contains: 1. 73.08.21 Eine fur alle Mal OST Bonus 2. 76 Tatort 'Kassenstruz' OST with TD 1974-1975 music 3. 79 {78} Fracture OST with TD and Froese 1974-1975 music 73-03 contains: 1. 73.11.29 Berlin (RIAS-FM) 'Deutsch Rock - Music Portraits von der Inlandscene' If you're into this music, then I hope you find these. I will be on/off this list for the next few weeks, so those that have e-mailed me, please be patient for replies. Hope this helps, Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 2:33 am Subject: Re: Plagia? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' > > > Hello TaDreamers! > > Compare the very beginning of 'Drunken Mozart in The Desert' (Stuntman, EF) > and 'The Hall Of Mirrors' (Trans-Europ-Express, Kraftwerk). May be you'll be ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ __ IIIIIIII_ _ IIIIIIII__IIIIIII___ My Fav KW song! I'd love to hear 'Druken Mozart in The Desert'! Is 'Ages' on re-release? ^^^^^^^ IIIIIIII <<>> > surprised! > > Fred Greg H. N.P.: F.S.O.L 'Accelerator' Anyone fans of this album? it's my first F.S.O.L. experience and I don't know what to think yet... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 2:18 pm Subject: Chat with Tangerine Dream! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' Hi I found this at the official TD page > Chat with Tangerine Dream! > > Wednesday April 22 at 8pm (Eastern US time) the Sci-Fi Channel's website, > The Dominion, is hosting an on-line 'rave' chat event, featuring Tangerine > Dream. Edgar & Jerome Froese will be online, along with Odyssey's Producer, > Steven Churchill. They will be answering questions and chatting about the > music for the new video 'LUMINOUS VISIONS'. Go to the dedicated 'rave' page: > http://www.scifi.com/rave/ for more information, and to > http://www.scifi.com/chat/ for the chat. > > Talk with you soon! Nothing need to be added. Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 3:30 pm Subject: IMAGES FROM ELECTRONIC ORGY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' Hi I've scanned the complete Electronic Orgy images ( including CD rings) using 300ppp (and 400ppp for the cover and back-cover) resolution and then compressed in jpeg format. For those who want to have them go to: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fsalgado/orgy.zip Hola La colección completa de imágenes de ELECTRONIC ORGY ( incluidos los discos de los CD) están a vuestra disposición en la dirección arriba indicada. Saludos Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 4:25 pm Subject: Re: Audition ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > Just thought I would post this to the list. I have been selected to audition > for an exciting new game show for VH1 called Rock & Roll Jeopardy. The > audition is next Saturday, 4/25. Or if you're British 25/4. If I am selected > to be on the show, you can bet that I will somehow work TD into my 'let's meet > the contestants' part. Just thought you'd like to know....David > > N.P... Supertramp...Breakfast in America...specifically 'Gone Hollywood' What if you get asked the question or actually...what if you get the answer: 'Roseanne' ...and what will you answer with?? ;-) Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 12:38 pm Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian E. Kirby' > Didn't this extra material appear on the Private Music of Tangerine Dream? > I have this CD and 3? unreleased tracks are great. Not to my knowledge, no. The two tracks are credited to Edgar and Jerome, and don't sound particularly Melrose-ish..to me, anyway. -B. Kirby From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 6:16 pm Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' I heard that 'Oasis' the video or music, took 8 years to complete--does this mean that some of the music on 'Oasis' could be that old? If so, there's a possible correlation with 'Melrose' or 'Rockoon.' Since 'Oasis' is my favorite albumk since 'Poland', and that I live in the very area the music is influenced from, I hope this album is just one in many of more electronic, intellegent compositions. Greg H. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13171 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Gabe Yedid Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 19, 1998 8:47 pm Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > I heard that 'Oasis' the video or music, > took 8 years to complete--does this mean > that some of the music on 'Oasis' could > be that old? If so, there's a possible > correlation with 'Melrose' or 'Rockoon.' Well...'Waterborne' did serve as the opener on the 1992 tour, so at least it is that old. Pieces like 'Zion' and 'Reflections' do have more in common with the early '90s stuff than with _Goblins Club_. Then again, we also have 'Summer Storm', which is more in line with ToB/Dream Mixes. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 12:20 am Subject: RE: TD Head ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Boneheads1 >>Really-From: Boneheads1 >> >>I have started patronizing a small local music store that specializes in >>imported music. One of the guys that works at the store [. . .] noticed >>that I was a fan of Tangerine Dream. So he tells me that he recently >>was curious if he could make himself sick of listening to Electronic >>Meditation. He put the CD on and listened to it over and over every day >>for a week (at home, not in the shop). As a result of this experiment, >>he concluded that he just couldn't get sick of it. > The big question is, what kind of music does he tend to like most, >and how many (and which) TD albums does he have or heard? My guess is >that he likes stuff like Einsturzende Neubaten, Nitzer Ebb, Laibach, and >Sonic Youth, and only has TD's ELECTRONIC MEDITATION, ALPHA CENTAURI, >and ATEM. (In *that* case, he would consider ZEIT to be like an Eno >album, hee hee.) > I've encountered several people who ordinarily dislike TD yet >warm to ELECTRONIC MEDITATION quite readily. I find that interesting, because I've never met someone who was really into Electronic Meditation before (which I suppose is why I wrote the note in the first place). It makes me glad to get input from someone who is able to discern value in a piece of art beyond what my own perceptions have been. Electronic Meditation is not what I'd consider an 'easy' album to listen to, and the thought of listening to it over and over was at first a bit disconcerting. However, given that thought to contend with, I was able to go home and listen with 'new ears'. >>You gotta love a guy like that. > I suppose. Maybe he's like the lead character in SLING BLADE. ;) I'm sure there are a lot of 'maybes' that one could apply. I prefer to accept the interpretation that he has a very subtle appreciation for fine music. > -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 12:39 am Subject: Second Chance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ken Beal Howdy All... Have some goodies to sell...giving this list first crack at 'em. Steve Roach....Stornwarning- Excerpts.....$7.00 Tangerine Dream....Turn of the Tides- CDS.....$5.00 Tangerine Dream....Phaedra (CDV2010).....$7.00 Tangerine Dream....Catch Me If You Can (Still sealed)...$9.00 You pay postage. Contact me off list if interested. Ken kwb10@c... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 3:07 am Subject: D: Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Boneheads1 Maybe it takes all kinds, but “Ambient Monkeys” is one of my favorite albums these days. It has that unaffected attitude that is classic Tangerine Dream. Motorcycles, rain, ocean waves, trains, classical overtures and pulsing electronics are all brought into harmony. All are balanced. Sometimes fierce, sometimes quiet, the “jungle” changes mood with the music. I’d love to play this very loudly in a train station, or a shopping mall, or a business office. Like Tangerine Dream’s best music, it conveys its own awareness, vibrant and alive. I can’t say I always understand it, but it makes me tremendously curious. Natural sound affects mixed with music always add a dimension of chaos and infinity. This album seems like a mix of that chaos and sublime composition. It feels very ahead of its time. Sort of like it “Picks up from where nature music leaves off.” One of the tracks: “The seventh propeller of silence” is actually “Astral Voyager” from “Green Desert” with some additions, but I’ll bet somebody already mentioned that. I don’t recognize the rest of the tracks. I am happy to see Tangerine Dream branching into yet another new dimension. I for one do not resist the change. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13195 D: Ambient Monkeys PENFOLD Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 6:32 am Subject: Linda McCartney ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Having just heard the news that Linda had died, I felt compelled to post something to the list. I feel for Paul and his family. It is a great loss....David N.P...Paul McCartney...All the Best From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 10:16 am Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: OIK > > I have never noticed any reaction from any of my animals to any music I have ever > played, but I know if I play country & western, my girlfriend's mom would > spontainiously begin vomiting...does that count?? > > Mike Daly > I found birds (feathered type!) are best for getting a reaction. My parents have some pet budgies and canaries, so whenever I go home I play them some music. TD normally or some Mike Oldfield. Can usually get the canary to join in at some point..thought don't know if this is good or bad.. it's an excuse to turn the volume up though.. Colin n.p. 'Incantations' -- Mike Oldfield From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 2:59 am Subject: Toronto Music Sources? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' Hey! I'm in Toronto for a week and was wondering if there was a good place in town to find some rare prog/e-music CD's... Thanks for any help anyone can give me! - jim jimbo@v... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13179 Re: Toronto Music Sources? Sean Montgomery Mon 4/20/1998 4 KB 13183 Re: Toronto Music Sources? Jim Moore Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB 13191 Re: Toronto Music Sources? Steve Quinney Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB 13196 Re: Toronto Music Sources? PNaunton Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 3:05 pm Subject: KEEP THE KEEP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dave Lane' Don't let the bastards get you down, Steven. --Dave From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 3:58 pm Subject: Re: Toronto Music Sources? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I'm in Toronto for a week and was wondering if there was a good > place in town to find some rare prog/e-music CD's... One place you'll want to check out is Seekers Books. Yeah, it's a bookstore on the outside, but they have a good selection of imported and hard-to-find electonic and esoteric music. They're at Bloor and Brunswick. The music is on the lower level. Other places you can try: Black Planet, on Queen Street at Augusta. They're expensive, but you can occasionally snag something interesting. Into vinyl? Try 'Just for the Record', on Yonge just south of Gerrard. Or Pete's Vinyl Museum, on Bloor west of Bathurst. Other than that, don't be afraid of the two big chain stores on Yonge Street: HMV and Sam's. You won't find out-of-print items, of course...but you will find stuff like 'Catch Me if You Can', 'Ages' and the Australian 'Goblin's Club'. Happy shopping! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: (Date Unavailable) Subject: Goodbye Keep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: kearley@r... Date: 04/20/1998 11:20 am (Monday) From: Kevin EARLEY To: ccMail:'tadream@c... at INTERNET' Subject: Goodbye Keep Steven, I would like to thank you for removing your interest (and enthusiasm) for The Keep from this list. This topic frequently causes feelings to run high, and I think the list will benefit from its absence. I am saddened, however, because personally, I found this ongoing soap-opera to be quite amusing, and entertaining. For the record, I see no reason not to believe that The Keep Soundtrack did surface at some point in the past, so count me as a believer. I doubt that any copies will ever turn up again, however. Kevin Earley kearley@r... PS. I though that the 8-track cover was quite clever, and I was expecting (and looking forward to) more fallout from it. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 4:22 pm Subject: Up yours, naysayers!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' Steven, you're vindicated. You owe me. :-) Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I was able to find the following entry: PA-249-378 (COHM) ITEM 3 OF 24 IN SET 2 TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream. IMPR: [s.l. : s.n., 19--] PHYS: 1 v. NOTE: Score from the film. CLNA: Famous Music Corporation DCRE: 1983 DPUB: 10Dec83 DREG: 24Jun85 APAU: music & arrangements: aParamount Overseas Productions, Inc., employer for hire of aEdgar Froese, aChris Franke & aJohannes Schmolling p.k.a. Tangerine Dream. LINM: NM: new arr. to 2 preexisting songs & additional music & arrangements. ECIF: 3/M Now, this is not bibliographic information like what you'd find in a library catalog, it's the copyright information. 'Famous Music Corp.' is probably the company that the film's producer set up to publish the music. You'll notice the 'DPUB' (Date of Publication) is 10 December, 1983. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!! Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13182 Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! TWeibre361 Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB 13184 Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! Jim Moore Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB 13185 Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! Gabe Yedid Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB 13186 Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! Plumer, Scott Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB 13188 Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! Vic Rek Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB 13200 Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! Dan J. Schulte Tue 4/21/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 5:14 pm Subject: Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-20 12:46:18 EDT, you write: << Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I was able to find the following entry: >> amazing that no one did this sooner...good move... tom w np: further east-westercisms From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 6:43 pm Subject: Re: Toronto Music Sources? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >Really-From: Sean Montgomery >One place you'll want to check out is Seekers Books. Yeah, it's a {etc.} Thanks Sean! Hopefully, my client will let me wonder around for an afternoon sometime before I have to go... - jim From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 6:48 pm Subject: Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I was >able to find the following entry: >TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream. Isn't this just the copyright to the film score (and not the released album)? I thought all film scores had to be copyrighted whether or not they were released in any format... (i.e. VISIONQUEST, FORBIDDEN, etc.) - jim From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 7:04 pm Subject: Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > Steven, you're vindicated. You owe me. :-) and we all know how nasty debts between librarians can be. ;) > Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I was > able to find the following entry: > > PA-249-378 (COHM) ITEM 3 OF 24 IN SET 2 > TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream. > IMPR: [s.l. : s.n., 19--] > PHYS: 1 v. > NOTE: Score from the film. > CLNA: Famous Music Corporation > DCRE: 1983 DPUB: 10Dec83 DREG: 24Jun85 > APAU: music & arrangements: aParamount Overseas Productions, Inc., > employer > for hire of aEdgar Froese, aChris Franke & aJohannes Schmolling > p.k.a. Tangerine Dream. > LINM: NM: new arr. to 2 preexisting songs & additional music & > arrangements. > ECIF: 3/M Does the Library of Congress have a copy in their collection, then? > Scott Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 7:32 pm Subject: RE: Up yours, naysayers!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Isn't this just the copyright to the film score (and not the released >album)? I thought all film scores had to be copyrighted whether or >not they were released in any format... (i.e. VISIONQUEST, FORBIDDEN, >etc.) Good question. The database from which I got this lists music recordings (among other things). Sheet music is listed in another database. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 7:43 pm Subject: Excuse me, do I have egg on my face? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I > was > > able to find the following entry: > > > > > PA-249-378 (COHM) ITEM 3 OF 24 IN SET 2 > > TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream. > > IMPR: [s.l. : s.n., 19--] > > PHYS: 1 v. > > NOTE: Score from the film. > > CLNA: Famous Music Corporation > > DCRE: 1983 DPUB: 10Dec83 DREG: 24Jun85 > > APAU: music & arrangements: aParamount Overseas Productions, Inc., > > employer > > for hire of aEdgar Froese, aChris Franke & aJohannes > Schmolling > > p.k.a. Tangerine Dream. > > LINM: NM: new arr. to 2 preexisting songs & additional music & > > arrangements. > > ECIF: 3/M > >Does the Library of Congress have a copy in their collection, then? Actually, the more I look at it, I think that may be the score, not the ST. I compared it to the Miracle Mile ST, and the records are not at all similar. Oh well, false alarm. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13189 Re: Excuse me, do I have egg on my face? Gabe Yedid Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 8:08 pm Subject: Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream. > CLNA: Famous Music Corporation > DCRE: 1983 DPUB: 10Dec83 DREG: 24Jun85 [...] > Now, this is not bibliographic information like what you'd find in a > library catalog, it's the copyright information. 'Famous Music Corp.' is > probably the company that the film's producer set up to publish the > music. Famous Music Corp. is the company the owns the rights to the music. But don't bother calling them, I already did. I'll let you know if I find something out... Maybe I should ask them 'how much'? Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 8:16 pm Subject: Re: Excuse me, do I have egg on my face? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid Would that be deviled eggs too, Scott? ;) (it continues to bedevil us all...) Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 2:39 pm Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 03:59 PM 4/18/98 -0500, Dr. Meow wrote: >How misguided can I be? I mistook the feeling I get when I listen to 'Zeit' >to wanting to kill myself. I think your cat's is infinitely more in tune >with his/her feelings than I am: it's 'kill someone'...preferably someone >else. Ahh.. now I get it. Well, it works for her. Personally I hate all those feathers in my mouth. Dr. Puss Puss From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 9:19 pm Subject: Re: Toronto Music Sources? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steve Quinney >Really-From: 'Jim Moore' > > >Hey! > >I'm in Toronto for a week and was wondering if there was a good >place in town to find some rare prog/e-music CD's... > >Thanks for any help anyone can give me! > >- jim Try Ed's Record World on Yonge St. just north of Eglinton Ave. They usually have some TD boots and other electronic stuff. Happy hunting ! Steve From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 2:36 pm Subject: Re: ZeitGeist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 03:54 PM 4/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >NO! You didn't!? You didn't play Zeit to your plants, did you? Just wait >until I tell the PETP! Well, in an effort at resusitation, I put a Yanni on infinite repeat and left the house for the day. When I got back, the cats had changed all the locks and refused to let me in. Lesson learned. Michy ps--I found the disk in the bottom of the catbox. I left it there. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 2:47 pm Subject: Re: Message from the Church Of Molassar's Wadded Panties... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 05:42 PM 4/18/98 -0400, you wrote: There are other >theories, but let us leave it a Mystery...) Hey Ship, I think you're on to something here! I had to throw my copy of The Release away after I noticed the albums around it were warping and had a lot of rot on them. It imediately cleared up all the problems. So there----get The Release and die young!!! Mikey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 9:46 pm Subject: Re: Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Nigel Merrick' It's great to see some discussion of this new work from The Tangs, but where in hell (or anywhere else for that matter) can I get my mitts on a copy of it????? All attempts to buy this album have failed, much to my misery and discontent... Anyone know, or do you have to belong to some secret underground sect to even sniff the cover? Cheers folks Nigel Merrick St George Bermuda ---------- From: tadream mailing list To: tadream@c... Subject: D: Ambient Monkeys Date: Monday, April 20, 1998 12:07 AM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Really-From: Boneheads1 Maybe it takes all kinds, but “Ambient Monkeys” is one of my favorite albums these days. It has that unaffected attitude that is classic Tangerine Dream. Motorcycles, rain, ocean waves, trains, classical overtures and pulsing electronics are all brought into harmony. All are balanced. Sometimes fierce, sometimes quiet, the “jungle” changes mood with the music. I’d love to play this very loudly in a train station, or a shopping mall, or a business office. Like Tangerine Dream’s best music, it conveys its own awareness, vibrant and alive. I can’t say I always understand it, but it makes me tremendously curious. Natural sound affects mixed with music always add a dimension of chaos and infinity. This album seems like a mix of that chaos and sublime composition. It feels very ahead of its time. Sort of like it “Picks up from where nature music leaves off.” One of the tracks: “The seventh propeller of silence” is actually “Astral Voyager” from “Green Desert” with some additions, but I’ll bet somebody already mentioned that. I don’t recognize the rest of the tracks. I am happy to see Tangerine Dream branching into yet another new dimension. I for one do not resist the change. ---------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13199 Re: Ambient Monkeys PNaunton Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 13201 Re: Ambient Monkeys John M. Poer Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 13202 Re: Ambient Monkeys John M. Poer Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 13207 Re: Ambient Monkeys Plumer, Scott Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 13214 Re: Ambient Monkeys Sean Montgomery Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 13254 Re: Ambient Monkeys Boneheads1 Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 23753 Ambient Monkeys Synthhtnys@a... Tue 8/29/2000 2 KB 33823 Ambient Monkeys Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Med Sat 5/11/2002 2 KB 33827 Re: Ambient Monkeys fozziebear Sun 5/12/2002 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 10:21 pm Subject: D: Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD Perhaps I'll play this at Burning Man and see what happens. BTW: There's usually some great ambient stuff being broadcast or played/performed aloud at one time or another at this festival. Pete mailto:penfold@a... http://www.artnet.net/~penfold/dev/null 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 20, 1998 11:16 pm Subject: Re: Toronto Music Sources? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PNaunton In a message dated 98-04-20 07:17:15 EDT, you write: << I'm in Toronto for a week and was wondering if there was a good place in town to find some rare prog/e-music CD's... >> I'm jealous - - one of my favourite cities!! Of course the times I've been there I was unable to find anything better than I have here in Chicago. In fact not as good, but then I'm hardly in 'the know'. Phil Naunton From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 1:49 am Subject: me eyes! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean DId the typeface in the TD guestbook change to a smaller font, or are my eyes going bad on me? Mj From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 2:22 am Subject: The Keep: The Facts (so we can all rest) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek Scott's research today prompted me to finally do my own research. I talked to the right people due to Scott's clue of who owns the music, meaning Famous Music Corp. I found them on The Web and called Famous Music Corp. (in New York City) and spoke to the head guy there and he said that they definitely own the rights to the soundtrack. I asked him the famous question 'Was The Keep ever released on vinyl or any other format?'. He told me to contact this person in California that works at Paramount. I called and left a detailed message explaining the situation and the guy called me back. The conversation went something like this. He told me that indeed Famous Music Corp. owns the rights and they are not for sale. Second, he told me that The Keep soundtrack was NEVER released in any format. He did say that the soundtrack was partially completed, but never completed for release. He also went on to say that Paramount would definitely have a copy if ever one existed. OK, so I took this all in and asked the nagging question again to this effect 'Would it be slightly possible that if it was released (then recalled) that it would be kept a secret for any reason(s)?' He seemed to get a little annoyed (I think) and said again that no soundtrack was ever completed for public release. He suggested that maybe there was a bootleg/pirate out. He did not deny that The Keep soundtrack was being made, but said that the project was scrapped midway. Looking at this, I can only conclude (as I have in the past), this soundtrack DOES NOT exist. So let's all put this issue to rest. No more speculation please. Yes there will be those that won't believe this, but don't tell me it exists until YOU can produce a copy of it (I just don't care about this anymore). So yes, three TD fans CAN BE WRONG about The Keep being released in 1984. Now go to sleep and get some rest. Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13208 Re: The Keep: The Facts (so we can all rest) Plumer, Scott Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 13215 Re: The Keep: The Facts (so we can all rest) Michael Fox Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 3:06 am Subject: Re: Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PNaunton In a message dated 98-04-20 17:49:45 EDT, you write: << It's great to see some discussion of this new work from The Tangs, but where in hell (or anywhere else for that matter) can I get my mitts on a copy of it????? All attempts to buy this album have failed, much to my misery and discontent... Anyone know, or do you have to belong to some secret underground sect to even sniff the cover? Cheers folks Nigel Merrick >> I've been off-list for a while, but I thought I would return for a bit of a update. I find it hard to believe that this 'Ambient Monkeys' disc is so hard to find. Mine came from a relatively commonplace outlet - - Barnes and Noble Books - - and they had quite a number of them at the time - - of course that was several months ago, now. I went back there recently to see if they had any of the more recent Klaus Schulze releases (no such luck!) and there were nought but a few derelict TD recordings in the bin. Dusty ones at that. Looks like Nigel is from my homeland, rather than where I live now, in the USofA, so maybe there is reason for concern in the Common Market. Phil Naunton Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13201 Re: Ambient Monkeys John M. Poer Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 13202 Re: Ambient Monkeys John M. Poer Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 3:56 am Subject: Re: Up yours, naysayers!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Jim Moore' > > >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > >Courtesy of the US Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, I was > >able to find the following entry: > >TITL: The Keep / music by Tangerine Dream. > > Isn't this just the copyright to the film score (and not the released > album)? I thought all film scores had to be copyrighted whether or > not they were released in any format... (i.e. VISIONQUEST, FORBIDDEN, > etc.) > > - jim Quite so, Mr. Jimbo. Oh well Stevo...almost hehe. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 5:15 am Subject: Re: Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 11:06 PM 4/20/1998 EDT, you wrote: >Really-From: PNaunton > > >In a message dated 98-04-20 17:49:45 EDT, you write: > > Anyone know, or do you have to belong to some secret underground sect to > even sniff the cover? > > > Nigel Merrick >> > Nigel, you might be able to do business with Dave Minton at Minnette Music (800-238-2737). He DID have some, but that has been a while. Can't hurt to call. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 5:18 am Subject: Re: Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' Nigel, oops, sorry, forgot you are not in the US. Minton's other number, accessible from out of the country is 505-882-4830. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 5:29 am Subject: Minnette Music ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'John M. Poer' > > > Nigel, you might be able to do business with Dave Minton at Minnette Music > (800-238-2737). He DID have some, but that has been a while. Can't hurt to > call. Is Minnette Music still active? Quite some time ago, I left several messages on his voice mail, inquiring about releases (I did buy from him previous to that). I never got a response, and this was MONTHS ago. How can he expect to sell when he doesn't reply? No call, no cashola... E-Man Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13204 Re: Minnette Music John M. Poer Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 13205 Re: Minnette Music Robert Grabowsky Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 13209 Re: Minnette Music Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 13213 Re: Minnette Music Dan J. Schulte Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 6:03 am Subject: Re: Minnette Music ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 10:29 PM 4/20/1998 -0700, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > >> Really-From: 'John M. Poer' >> > >> Nigel, you might be able to do business with Dave Minton at Minnette >Music >> (800-238-2737). He DID have some, but that has been a while. Can't hurt >to >> call. > >Is Minnette Music still active? Quite some time ago, I left several >messages on his voice mail, inquiring about releases (I did buy from him >previous to that). I never got a response, and this was MONTHS ago. How can >he expect to sell when he doesn't reply? No call, no cashola... > >E-Man You may be right, it's been a while since I heard from him. It was always hard to communicate with him, but it was possible if you were persistent, and he did get stuff that was hard to find. He may be gone. Too bad. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 7:11 am Subject: Re: Minnette Music ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky Eli, Try calling him at home at 1-505-882-4830. I am in regular contact with Dave. In fact he just e-mailed me last week from his new job. Minette Music is Alive and well. THE HIGHLANDER >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > >> Really-From: 'John M. Poer' >> > >> Nigel, you might be able to do business with Dave Minton at Minnette >Music >> (800-238-2737). He DID have some, but that has been a while. Can't hurt >to >> call. > >Is Minnette Music still active? Quite some time ago, I left several >messages on his voice mail, inquiring about releases (I did buy from him >previous to that). I never got a response, and this was MONTHS ago. How can >he expect to sell when he doesn't reply? No call, no cashola... > >E-Man > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 8:12 am Subject: Re: Macula Transfer - two versions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Kees At 18:21 15-04-98 +0000, you wrote: >Really-From: phil@h... (Philip Meyer) > > >I just received a catalogue that says there are two new releases of Macula >Transfer; the original album on CD via Mannikin Records (Germany), and also >Virgin have released a version - allegedly remixed and remastered by Tangerine >Dream. > >Anyone know what the differences are? Is it worth getting both? There has been talk of both. The Manikin version with all normal LP music and a Virgin release, remixed, remastered, SBM or tangetized of that I'm not sure. As you probably know the Manikin version is available and at this moment there's no news about the Virgin version. It's possible that they posponed it as it seems rather useless to release their version so shortly after Manikin. Kees From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 12:43 pm Subject: RE: Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >It's great to see some discussion of this new work from The Tangs, but >where in hell (or anywhere else for that matter) can I get my mitts on a >copy of it????? All attempts to buy this album have failed, much to my >misery and discontent... >Anyone know, or do you have to belong to some secret underground sect to >even sniff the cover? I got mine from either CDNow or RPM. RPM, I think. They're at http://www.rpmrecords.com. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13214 Re: Ambient Monkeys Sean Montgomery Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 1:01 pm Subject: RE: The Keep: The Facts (so we can all rest) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >care about this anymore). So yes, three TD fans CAN BE WRONG about The Keep >being released in 1984. Now go to sleep and get some rest. Thanks, Vic, for the bad news. At least it puts the issue to rest. But what did those people see? Were there bootlegs of the soundtrack released that early? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 1:02 pm Subject: Re: Minnette Music ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Robert Grabowsky > > Eli, > Try calling him at home at 1-505-882-4830. I am in regular contact with > Dave. In fact he just e-mailed me last week from his new job. Minette Music > is Alive and well. > THE HIGHLANDER Thanks, Bob! I'll give Dave a ring and see if he's gettin' jiggy wit it! ;-) You know, I never thanked you for that disc you sent me...but I am, now: THANKS!!! ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 2:10 pm Subject: td online april 22nd!!!! Thought I might pass this along. Came from a friend in Colorado! ******************************************************************* >>**************************************************** >>ONLINE 'RAVE' PARTY AND CHAT WITH TANGERINE DREAM >>Wednesday, April 22 @ 8pm ET/5pm PT/1am UK time >>**************************************************** >> >>Log on for The Dominion's first online 'rave' party. Chat with other >>sci-fi fans via our java applet while grooving to streaming videos >>from Luminous Visions, a collection of cutting-edge animation by >>Japanese video artist Yoichiro Kawaguchi scored with the music of >>Tangerine Dream. Edgar & Jerome Froese of Tangerine Dream will be online >>to discuss their latest projects as well as their 30+ years of music. >> >>For more information and a chance to win a Sony DVD player, >>visit: >> >> http://www.scifi.com/rave/ >> >>For more information about 'Luminous Visions' or other 'Mind's Eye' >>video releases, visit: >> >> http://www.sonymusic.com/smv/mindseyepresents/ >> From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 1:56 pm Subject: Re: Minette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean I have ordered stuff within the last month... I didn't know he had Ambient Moneys and Timesquare. I got mine through rpmrecords (though they later surfaced in a local shop)... MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13232 RPM-Records Rainer Rutka Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 13252 Re: RPM-Records Sean Montgomery Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 1:59 pm Subject: Tarzan (Franke) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Sorry fot the delayed response, but when is this movie coming out? I would suspect the music to be more like TRANSFORMATION or CELESTINE than B5! MJ NP: Haslinger: World Without Rules From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 3:41 pm Subject: Re: Minnette Music ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Robert Grabowsky > > Eli, > Try calling him at home at 1-505-882-4830. I am in regular contact with > Dave. In fact he just e-mailed me last week from his new job. Minette Music > is Alive and well. > THE HIGHLANDER Well...maybe alive...I don't know about well. It's too hard to contact Dave anymore. That and he's a tad flaky when it comes to trades & getting packages out to you on time. Well, good luck to all who try. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 5:06 pm Subject: RE: Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I got mine from either CDNow or RPM. RPM, I think. They're at > http://www.rpmrecords.com. I checked the RPM catalogue last night, and Ambient Monkeys wasn't listed anymore. They might be sold out...but it never hurts to ask. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 12:16 pm Subject: Re: The Keep: The Facts (so we can all rest) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 10:22 PM 4/20/98 -0400, 'Vic Tracey' wrote: >Scott's research today prompted me to finally do my own research. Thank you for your diligent detective work, Vic! I'm sure someone will diagree with your findings, but, for one, am with you on this. Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 6:38 pm Subject: Interesting Items on RPM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' I just took a look at RPM's site and found, not EO, but some other interesting entries: Tangerine Dream- (Baumann,Peter- Phase by Phase)..........$14.99 Tangerine Dream- (Jolliffe, Steve- Temmenu)..........$19.99 Tangerine Dream- Underwater Moonlight..........$16.99 Now, I know I'm never the first to find out about anything, but I've NEVER heard of these titles. 'Phase by Phase'??? 'Underwater MOONLIGHT' ??? and the Joliffe entry is totally unknown to me. Are these typos, or are these real....ahh...NEW.....items, or have I just been staggering around in the dark again. I'll take the flames if these have all been discussed to death already, but I'd sure like to know if they are something I should have already known about. Thanks. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13235 Re: Interesting Items on RPM Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Wed 4/22/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 6:47 pm Subject: PooBahs Records and Electronic Orgy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' Hi again, Just in case, I called PooBahs in Pasadena, and they said they had carried EO but didn't have it now. They tried to call their distributor while I was on the phone with them but couldn't get an answer to whether or not they could get more. They promised to call me back. Past history would indicate that they will. If you don't already know, these guys are a very good source of unusual stuff. They have all the various modes of communication: phone: 626-449-3359 e-mail: poobah@c... web page: http://commline.com/poobah/ fax: (626)449-7726 They do special order, mail order, etc. They've been in business in Pasadena for 20 years and they are dependable and honest. I'll let you know if they say they can get more 'Electronic Orgy'. Hope this helps someone. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13218 PooBahs Records and Ambient Monkeys John M. Poer Tue 4/21/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 7:01 pm Subject: PooBahs Records and Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 11:47 AM 4/21/1998 -0700, I wrote: > > >Hi again, > >Just in case, I called PooBahs in Pasadena, and they said they had carried >EO but didn't have it now. > >They tried to call their distributor while I was on the phone with them but >couldn't get an answer to whether or not they could get more. They promised >to call me back. Past history would indicate that they will. > >If you don't already know, these guys are a very good source of unusual stuff. > >They have all the various modes of communication: > >phone: 626-449-3359 >e-mail: poobah@c... >web page: http://commline.com/poobah/ >fax: (626)449-7726 > >They do special order, mail order, etc. They've been in business in >Pasadena for 20 years and they are dependable and honest. > >I'll let you know if they say they can get more 'Electronic Orgy'. > >Hope this helps someone. > > I just realized that the original 'search' was for 'Ambient Monkeys' and not EO....so I called Poobahs back. They're going to check on that one too. They said it would take longer to get because it's an import but that it was probably still obtainable. Give 'em a call or an e-mail. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 8:14 pm Subject: Synergy releases ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Snowdog747 Though not direct TD content, I am sure many may be interested. I was able to purchase two of the re-released Synergy cd's, 'Cords' and 'Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra'. They were actually at a Best Buy here in Indianapolis. I have listened to 'Cords' and it is excellent(had it on LP but can't find it, its been years since I had heard it). Both have interesting liner notes on the recordings. The 'Electronic Realizations..' cd was mixed using QS4 quad and the liner notes state that the quad will decode with varying degrees of success on home-theater systems. I will have to try it out when I get home. The 'Sequencer' release was also listed as available but not on hand. I have always enjoyed the LP version of 'Games' and 'Metropolitan Suite' is one of my favorite non-TD releases. Well, back to lurking in the shadows. Ben NP: Synergy 'Electronic Realizations on my small office stereo not bad..... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 8:08 pm Subject: For The TD Completist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery For those of you who must have *everything* TD, the track 'Touchwood' appears on a New Age compilation from Rhino Records, called 'New Visions: Celestial Voyagers'. TD shares the disc with Brian Eno, Mike Oldfield, Michael Stearns, Clannad, Patrick O'Hearn, Vangelis and others. It should be out now. So break out those healing crystals, and find your inner child. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 8:39 pm Subject: Bootlegs I'm looking for sources of TD bootlegs. Pls e-mail me privately if you can help. Thanks Steve Jenkins steve@l... VCard Jenkins Steve < steve@l...> Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13223 Re: Bootlegs SRiser3600 Tue 4/21/1998 2 KB 13225 Re: Bootlegs KRAUSENECKS Tue 4/21/1998 3 KB 30272 Bootlegs Colin Jouxson Tue 11/27/2001 2 KB 30273 Re: Bootlegs Rubyconist Tue 11/27/2001 2 KB 30274 Bootlegs Colin Jouxson Tue 11/27/2001 3 KB 30276 Bootlegs toby.braddick@u... Tue 11/27/2001 3 KB 30414 Re: Bootlegs chris towers Wed 12/5/2001 4 KB 30279 Re: Bootlegs Joe Shoults Tue 11/27/2001 3 KB 30289 Re: Bootlegs Rubyconist Wed 11/28/2001 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 8:44 pm Subject: Mail Delivery Problem ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-from: smtp Sorry tadream@c... Your mail to PNaunton could not be delivered because PNaunton is not accepting mail with attachments From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 9:01 pm Subject: Re: Bootlegs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 also looking for dream boots sriser3600@a... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 9:03 pm Subject: td ONLINE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Hi , Is there anyone here who can save a transription of the conversation on the Sci Fi Dominion site. I will be out of town- :( , and want to see what was discussed. Perhaps someone with more computer etiquette could make a copy and the rest of us could read it later? Please let me know . Thanks-Viva Gordita! Chris From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 9:06 pm Subject: RE: Bootlegs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS I believe he means 'cookies', Snacks......rare imports-he SURELY can't be speaking of ILLEGAL recording's...could he fella's????? Chris ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 4:39 PM To: tadream@c... Subject: Bootlegs <>I'm looking for sources of TD bootlegs. Pls e-mail me privately if you can help. Thanks Steve Jenkins steve@l... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 1:11 am Subject: Re: SV: Stuntman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-17 15:06:45 EDT, you write: << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Alexander Bjelke' I saw a stuntman vinyl in a recordshop, and I was wondering if it is worth picking up? >> Get it if for no other reason than the photography on the cover; but the music is pretty good too. Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13253 Re: SV: Stuntman DAVENTURA Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Re STUNTMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:11:41 EDT >Subject: Re: SV: Stuntman >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: AOutland > > Really-From: 'Alexander Bjelke' > >>I saw a stuntman vinyl in a recordshop, and I was wondering if it is >>worth picking up? > > Get it if for no other reason than the photography on the cover; >but the music is pretty good too. Dell I'd say that it's his second best album (the first being EPSILON IN MALAYSIAN PALE). Also, if you get a first pressing of this LP, the liner is a thick carboard sleeve with about 40 small color photographs of Edgar on each side (that makes a total of about 80 pics!). -- Steven Feldman --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't give a damn on what the journalists are saying. If some dog pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!' -- Klaus Kinski From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Request for Cyberchat Netiquette Primer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman For this cyberchat with TD slated for 8pm tomorrow night at the Sci-fi Network's website , what is the netiquette/procedure re waiting one's turn to speak? I tried a chat for the very first time yesterday for practice (at the scifi.com site) and it occurred to me that this cyberchat could well turn out to be a cacophonous event -- with all manner of threads/conversations being carried on simultaneously. Will this event have a moderator? How do cyberchats with rock groups and their fans go, generally? There are six questions I'd like to ask Eddy 'n' Jerry: o If and when Edgar actually quits the band in the year 2000, who is/ are most likely to be Jerome's choice(s) for replacement(s) -- in the short-term and/or the long-term? o Supposedly, there were about 60 hours (!) of music composed for the STREETHAWK TV show. What are the chances of a 2-CD set of the highlights from these sessions? o What are the chances of TDI re-releasing THE MAN INSIDE soundtrack -- which was only briefly released in 1990 by EMI in France? o What is meant by the TDI re-release of QUINOA being 'album-length'? o Did Chris Franke participate in the preparation of any of the songs for the DREAM ROOTS compilation album? o Was it Edgar or Johannes Schmoelling who played the piano solo on the PERGAMON excerpt that is on the TANGENTS compilation? + What color is Molasar's underpants? (Heh, just checking to see if you're awake.) -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13233 Re: Request for Cyberchat Netiquette Primer Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 13268 Re: Request for Cyberchat Netiquette Primer Plumer, Scott Wed 4/22/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: The Keep: The Facts (Nice Try--Not!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:22:21 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Re: The Keep: The Facts (so we can all rest) >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Vic Rek > >I [. . .] called Famous Music Corp. (in New York City) and spoke to the >head guy there [. . .] Was he working for the company in 1983-1984. Thought not. ;) :( >Looking at this, I can only conclude (as I have in the past), this >soundtrack DOES NOT exist. So let's all put this issue to rest. No more >speculation please. [. . .] Bad word choice ('speculation'). I am not speculating when I go on a rant about having seen a copy of THE KEEP soundtrack in 1984. It is a fact. If you have a problem believing that, it's your problem. Don't go jumping to conclusions just because the head of a company tells you something. Maybe he -- like Edgar -- is just giving you the party-line spiel. I really didn't want to say anything re this stuff on the list, but the stridency of your claim of what is and is not factual in the context of my 'quest' made me get up on my hind legs again. Sorry. -- Steven Feldman --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't give a damn on what the nay-sayers are saying. If some TD fan pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!' -- Steve Kinski Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13238 Re: The Keep: The Facts (Nice Try--Not!) Dan J. Schulte Wed 4/22/1998 5 KB 13267 Re: The Keep: The Facts (Nice Try--Not!) Vic Rek Wed 4/22/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 1:43 pm Subject: Re: The Keep (Not Really) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@i... (Michael Livsey) On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 01:36:04 EDT, you wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: DAVENTURA > > >Although this thread has been beaten to death, I must add something. Back in >1977, I saw a motion picture called 'Star Wars' that changed my life forever. >I started collecting everything I could get my hands on. Months before >'Return of the Jedi' was released, I was lucky enough to come across a >'Revenge of the Jedi' one sheet, which was the original title. I have spoken >with many 'Star Wars' fans who don't believe I have this poster, but it is >hanging right in front of me as I type. In fact, I've been offered $1200 for >it. My original 12 inch Darth Vader, mint in box, is worth an estimated $500. >I think I paid 15 bucks for it. As far as 'The Keep' is concerned, I can't >comment. But when Steven finally finds it, I believe it will be his Lost Ark. >Remember what happened to that? Thank you for listening, I now return you to >your regularly scheduled rants....David As a kid, I had an original Dalek, but I threw it out 'cause I was bored playing with it (they're now worth a grand or so). I also had an original 'yellow submarine' but it got thrown out as well (they're worth a few hundred these days). I think I owned a copy of the Keep a decade ago, but threw it out because it was scratched. ---- mlivsey@i... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13231 The Keep (Not Really) DAVENTURA Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 13234 Re: The Keep (Not Really) Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 13240 Re: The Keep (Not Really) Dan J. Schulte Wed 4/22/1998 4 KB 13260 Re: The Keep (Not Really) Plumer, Scott Wed 4/22/1998 2 KB 13266 Re: The Keep (Not Really) DAVENTURA Wed 4/22/1998 5 KB 13269 Re: The Keep (Not Really) DAVENTURA Wed 4/22/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 5:36 am Subject: The Keep (Not Really) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Although this thread has been beaten to death, I must add something. Back in 1977, I saw a motion picture called 'Star Wars' that changed my life forever. I started collecting everything I could get my hands on. Months before 'Return of the Jedi' was released, I was lucky enough to come across a 'Revenge of the Jedi' one sheet, which was the original title. I have spoken with many 'Star Wars' fans who don't believe I have this poster, but it is hanging right in front of me as I type. In fact, I've been offered $1200 for it. My original 12 inch Darth Vader, mint in box, is worth an estimated $500. I think I paid 15 bucks for it. As far as 'The Keep' is concerned, I can't comment. But when Steven finally finds it, I believe it will be his Lost Ark. Remember what happened to that? Thank you for listening, I now return you to your regularly scheduled rants....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 9:59 am Subject: RPM-Records ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rainer Rutka On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Michael A Jean > I have ordered stuff within the last month... I didn't know he had Ambient > Moneys and Timesquare. I got mine through rpmrecords (though they later > surfaced in a local shop)... > MJ You lucky guy ! I ordered TS and AM in december last year by RPM records and I didn't get anything until today ! Maybe these people can't deliver outside the US ! ;-( Rainer Rutka Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13252 Re: RPM-Records Sean Montgomery Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 6:56 am Subject: Re: Request for Cyberchat Netiquette Primer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > There are six questions I'd like to ask Eddy 'n' Jerry: Got answers to two of 'em for ya: > o Did Chris Franke participate in the preparation of any of the songs > for the DREAM ROOTS compilation album? Affirmative :-) > o Was it Edgar or Johannes Schmoelling who played the piano solo on > the PERGAMON excerpt that is on the TANGENTS compilation? Ed. It's a re-recording. I think Johannes performed the original. E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 6:57 am Subject: Re: The Keep (Not Really) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >Really-From: mlivsey@i... (Michael Livsey) > > >I think I owned a copy of the Keep a decade ago, but threw it out >because it was scratched. Is that what hit me on the head while I was taking out the trash? Damn... ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 9:04 am Subject: Re: Interesting Items on RPM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 >Really-From: 'John M. Poer' > >Tangerine Dream- (Baumann,Peter- Phase by Phase)..........$14.99 A Virgin vault copilation release, including tracks from Pete's solo albums. BTW, it's rare to see the UK get the better of the pricing deal - it only costs Ģ6-99 over here, so $15 is pretty steep. Import, I assume. >Tangerine Dream- (Jolliffe, Steve- Temmenu)..........$19.99 This is a re-release of another Jolliffe album (Voices, is that right?), which has been segued into a single piece. If you want it, I'll sell you mine. >Tangerine Dream- Underwater Moonlight..........$16.99 Pass. ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 3:11 pm Subject: D: The Keep(?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD I say. If and when this puppy *ever* gets released I had this thought: Will the discussion of the release go away. What will Steve do? (I can't keep up w/ Dano & co, but I can still try.....) Pete mailto:penfold@a... http://www.artnet.net/~penfold/dev/null 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 1:56 pm Subject: Full Length Quinoa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Hermes mentioned previously that the original info for the fanclub release in 92 said that the disc could contain more than 40 minutes of music...When it came out it only had 28 minutes... It is pointless to speculate what it might contain, but Hermes suggested it MIGHT be the Easter Island track... MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 4:44 am Subject: Re: The Keep: The Facts (Nice Try--Not!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > Really-From: Vic Rek > > >Really-From: Steven Feldman > >>Really-From: Vic Rek > > [...] > > Bad word choice ('speculation'). I am not speculating when I go on > >a rant about having seen a copy of THE KEEP soundtrack in 1984. It is a > >fact. If you have a problem believing that, it's your problem. Don't > >go jumping to conclusions just because the head of a company tells you > >something. Maybe he -- like Edgar -- is just giving you the party-line > >spiel. > > I think that the man I spoke with was with Famous Music before you wore > diapers. I will not mention names. Secondly, everyone called ME back and > discussed the issue, so there was an open discussion (this can happen, even > in the case of The Keep). Haven't you done this simple research which took > only half a day to complete? I know why you didn't do this simple inquiry, > because YOU don't want to know the facts and you think this damn album is > some kind of music business cult conspiracy. Maybe you and your 2 other TD > affidavits saw a cardboard promo sheet for the upcoming release (in cassete > maybe too)? Haven't you seen these things? But if the LP wasn't released, > then the cardboard displays went away and so did The Keep. Maybe that's why > nobody could buy it, because it was just a piece of cardboard (at best). > Chill Steven, you have better news to contribute I'm sure. I no longer need > to hear about this quest of yours, sorry. Show us the album, or just be > mute. If you're pissed, so be it! > > Your friend, > Vic Okay, being one of the very few (perhaps the only one here) who deals exclusively with soundtracks/OST producers/hardcore OST collectors/OST music labels including Varese, Silva Screen, Sony, etc, etc I think my point is valid here. (OST means original soundtrack BTW). I'm not bragging about being in this business like Stevie wants you to think. I'm only saying that I know people who have been collecting soundtracks before Stevo was even a sperm in his dad's...er...you know. I know several experts who know about ALL OST's released, bootlegged, promos, etc, etc. NONE have ever seen a Keep LP...because it does not exist. I know several producers as well who have vehemently denied the production of such an LP. Now, I also have heard, courtesy of certain producers, hundreds of unreleased film scores.....and if the Keep existed it would have escaped into the public's grasp some way or another. I find it impossible to believe that you know more about what was released and what wasn't soundtrack wise over what these respected producers know. Let it go dude....just let it go. Sleep!!! You're wrong! Accept it! If I say any more I'll just end up hurting your feelings...so that's it..I'm done on this subject... Dano-out! Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 6:07 pm Subject: RE: Being nice to your friends up north, eh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Oh yeah? Like, you try to imply that perhaps we drive too slow or >something? Perhaps you should try to keep up with me in my 1997 >Mustang GT while I play TD's Dolphin Dance on my cassette player? >(With a still undisclosed number of police officers in pursuit >trying to stop me... ;-) Try THAT in one of L.A.'s congested >highway at rush hour!!! Apparently you don't live in Toronto. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13243 Re: Being nice to your friends up north, eh Dan J. Schulte Wed 4/22/1998 4 KB 13245 Re: Being nice to your friends up north, eh Vincent Goudreault Wed 4/22/1998 4 KB 13258 Re: Being nice to your friends up north, eh Gabe Yedid Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 13261 Re: Being nice to your friends up north, eh Vincent Goudreault Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 13277 Re: Being nice to your friends up north, eh Dan J. Schulte Thu 4/23/1998 3 KB 13279 Re: Being nice to your friends up north, eh Michael Livsey Thu 4/23/1998 3 KB 13302 Re: Being nice to your friends up north, eh OIK Fri 4/24/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 4:21 pm Subject: Re: The Keep (Not Really) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > >Although this thread has been beaten to death, I must add something. Back in > >1977, I saw a motion picture called 'Star Wars' that changed my life forever. > >I started collecting everything I could get my hands on. Months before > >'Return of the Jedi' was released, I was lucky enough to come across a > >'Revenge of the Jedi' one sheet, which was the original title. I have spoken > >with many 'Star Wars' fans who don't believe I have this poster, but it is > >hanging right in front of me as I type. This is odd considering the 'Revenge' poster is fairly common (worth only about $200...in fact..sold one a few months ago). There are pictures of this poster in every Star Wars collectable book. You must have some fairly geeky friends if they don't believe you have it, cuz it's easy to prove that it exists. As for The Keep..I have yet to see one single picture....funny how all other TD fans are the same way...except for the tards who have claimed to have seen it. In fact, I've been offered $1200 for > >it. My original 12 inch Darth Vader, mint in box, is worth an estimated $500. > >I think I paid 15 bucks for it. As far as 'The Keep' is concerned, I can't > >comment. But when Steven finally finds it, I believe it will be his Lost Ark. You mean pacifier, don't you? Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 4:13 pm Subject: RE: tadream-digest V16 #258 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Glenn Reinicke I just ordered a copy from Eurock. http://www.eurock.com > -----Original Message----- > From: tadream@c... [SMTP:tadream@c...] > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 7:18 AM > To: tadream@c... > Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #258 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to > majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Really-From: SRiser3600 > > > > I HEARD SOME TIME BACK ABOUT MACULA TRANSFER BEING RELEASED ON CD > HAS THIS HAPPENED YET ////????? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13244 Re: tadream-digest V16 #258 SRiser3600 Wed 4/22/1998 2 KB 13251 Re: tadream-digest V16 #258 Kees Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 13259 Re: tadream-digest V16 #258 Tom Richmond Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 13264 Re: tadream-digest V16 #258 Rainer Rutka Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB 13265 Re: tadream-digest V16 #258 Vincent Goudreault Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 4:42 pm Subject: Fwd: Annc: Film Music Network May 4 Event Info (LA) FYI From: Mark Northam Date: Tue Apr 21, 1998 11:11 pm Subject: Annc: Film Music Network May 4 Event Info (LA) To: FILMUS-L@L... The Film Music Network and Film Music Magazine present Film Music Network Nights, a monthly networking series for professionals in the film music business. The events take place the first Monday of every month at 7:00pm (doors open at 6:30pm for the Technical Spotlight) at the Beverly Garland Holiday Inn, 4222 Vineland Avenue, Studio City, CA and feature guest speakers who focus on specific issues and challenges in the film music business. After these brief presentations, attendees are encouraged to network. Admission is $10, memberships are available. The focus of our next event on Monday, May 4, 1998 is MUSIC FOR TELEVISION, and will feature: Dan Foliart, composer ('Home Improvement', '7th Heaven', 'House Rules', 'Soul Man') and Cheryl Melton (VP of Television Music at The Walt Disney Co.) will discuss 'Music For Television: Turning Your First Jobs Into a Career' ***** TECHNICAL SPOTLIGHT: Our technical spotlight this month will feature Jim Lucas and Ron Franklin from TASCAM who will present their new line of hard disk, Modular Multitrack recorders and players. These products are fast becoming the benchmark in the post production environment and the presentation will review the features and benefits associated with these non-linear, open system, multi format products for audio professionals. ***** To RSVP for the event or receive more information, call (818) 771-7778. For questions, call (818) 507-4900. On the internet information is available at: www.filmmusic.net www.filmmusicmag.com Best Regards, Mark Northam and Lisa Anne Miller co-founders ---------------------- Mark Northam, composer www.cinematrax.com Los Angeles, CA | Publisher, Film Music Magazine - www.filmmusicmag.com ************************************************************************* To leave FILMUS-L, send the command SIGNOFF FILMUS-L to LISTSERV@L... or send an e-mail message to FILMUS-L-request@L... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 4:31 pm Subject: Re: Being nice to your friends up north, eh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Vincent Goudreault > > tadream mailing list wrote: > > > > > > > > Chris-the pissed off Carpet man with no money who has to miss the TD > > conference on the Dominion cuz he has to go to a Goddamn carpet > > meeting in Friggin canada and could give a shit less- Chouinard > > Some of us, living in this country, may take offence to our place of > birth being referred as 'Friggin', capital 'F' or not... > After all *we* did NOT invent C&W 'music'... and I bet there are > proportionally more TD fans in out population than in the US of A. > > ;-) > > C.B. Vincent Goudreault I think he's just reffering to the distance factor being a pain in the ass....it was hardly a territory slam...especially relating to the people there. It's not like he said that Canadians drive too slow or anything. ;-) Dano, eh. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 2:17 pm Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #258 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 I HEARD SOME TIME BACK ABOUT MACULA TRANSFER BEING RELEASED ON CD HAS THIS HAPPENED YET ////????? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 5:17 pm Subject: Re: Being nice to your friends up north, eh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > > tadream mailing list wrote: > > > > Really-From: Vincent Goudreault > > > > tadream mailing list wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris-the pissed off Carpet man with no money who has to miss the TD > > > conference on the Dominion cuz he has to go to a Goddamn carpet > > > meeting in Friggin canada and could give a shit less- Chouinard > > > > Some of us, living in this country, may take offence to our place of > > birth being referred as 'Friggin', capital 'F' or not... > > After all *we* did NOT invent C&W 'music'... and I bet there are > > proportionally more TD fans in out population than in the US of A. > > > > ;-) > > > > C.B. Vincent Goudreault > > I think he's just reffering to the distance factor being a pain in the > ass....it was hardly a territory slam...especially relating to the > people there. It's not like he said that Canadians drive too slow or > anything. ;-) > > Dano, eh. *joke mode ON* Oh yeah? Like, you try to imply that perhaps we drive too slow or something? Perhaps you should try to keep up with me in my 1997 Mustang GT while I play TD's Dolphin Dance on my cassette player? (With a still undisclosed number of police officers in pursuit trying to stop me... ;-) Try THAT in one of L.A.'s congested highway at rush hour!!! *joke mode off* (whisper: Dan, I hope you noticed the smily after my original post, yes? Actually, what really offended me was the Chris didn't write Canada with the capital 'C'... NOT. Now, joke mode REALLY off...) ;-) C hey B hey Vincent hey Goudreault, hey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 5:23 pm Subject: The Keep (YES, Really) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' I Have another thing to comment here. I don't understand why some people here try to ban a perfectly on topic theme. Maybe it was discussed to death, but the Keep stuff isn't breaking any thought line at all. messages on this list because the subject line doesn't touch my curiosity or I have enough of it. let's be a little democratic and tolerant. I love this list even if it really interest me no more than 10% of the normal traffic. --- Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 7:11 pm Subject: [Fwd: THE KEEP ( YES, Really)] From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 6:45 pm Subject: THE KEEP ( YES, Really) To: tadream mailing list Message posted again. The former was cut by the virtual dimension. I Have another thing to comment here. I don't understand why some people here try to ban a perfectly on topic theme. Maybe it was discussed to death, but the Keep stuff isn't breaking any thought line at all. messages on this list because the subject line doesn't touch my curiosity or I have enough of it. let's be a little democratic and tolerant. I love this list even if it really interest me no more than 10% of the normal traffic. --- Francisco Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13262 Re: [Fwd: THE KEEP ( YES, Really)] Francisco Salgado C. Wed 4/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 6:45 pm Subject: THE KEEP ( YES, Really) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' Message posted again. The former was cut by the virtual dimension. I Have another thing to comment here. I don't understand why some people here try to ban a perfectly on topic theme. Maybe it was discussed to death, but the Keep stuff isn't breaking any thought line at all. messages on this list because the subject line doesn't touch my curiosity or I have enough of it. let's be a little democratic and tolerant. I love this list even if it really interest me no more than 10% of the normal traffic. --- Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 11:53 am Subject: cyberchat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> can anyone record this cyber chat to cdr or cassette? is this possible? if someone can get a tape or cdr, please let me know and we can work a trade. thanks lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 22, 1998 3:31 pm Subject: Being nice to your friends up north... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > > > Chris-the pissed off Carpet man with no money who has to miss the TD > conference on the Dominion cuz he has to go to a Goddamn carpet > meeting in Friggin canada and could give a shit less- Chouinard Some of us, living in this country, may take offence to our place of birth being referred as 'Friggin', capital 'F' or not... After all *we* did NOT invent C&W 'music'... and I bet there are proportionally more TD fans in out population than in the US of A. ;-) C.B. Vincent Goudreault autonomously breathing since 11:50 AM EST February 17 1957 online since early 1993, TD fan since 1977 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet